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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
The new offices and staff will help mitigate the loss of business going the other way as the current unfettered two-way direct access between Britain and the EU comes to an end in December following a Brexit transition period.

There's going to be an adjustment both ways post Jan 1, but an exodus from the City of London hasn't happened
 
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Vallance: No Hard Evidence to Justify Hospitality Curfew

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Appearing before the Science and Technology Committee this morning, Sir Patrick Vallance admitted that “there is no really hard evidence on curfew times”. Under questioning from Greg Clarke, Vallance said the decision to impose the curfew had been based on the assumption “keeping people longer in an environment where there is also alcohol is likely to increase risk”. An industry devastating restriction, all based on a hunch.
 
Vallance: No Hard Evidence to Justify Hospitality Curfew

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Appearing before the Science and Technology Committee this morning, Sir Patrick Vallance admitted that “there is no really hard evidence on curfew times”. Under questioning from Greg Clarke, Vallance said the decision to impose the curfew had been based on the assumption “keeping people longer in an environment where there is also alcohol is likely to increase risk”. An industry devastating restriction, all based on a hunch.

You’ll be telling me that ordering ham, egg and chips with a pint isn’t going to make a difference next.
 
Lammy Cancelled for Racism
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David Lammy found himself at the centre of an anti-woke racism row last night after daring to praise Churchill on Twitter. The Shadow Lord Chancellor dared to praise the former PM on social media last night, contrasting him as a “pioneer of human rights” compared to the current crop of Conservatives who dare to question the current Human Rights Act. Unfortunately for Lammy, the hard left have now firmly concluded Churchill was the nastiest racist of the 1940s…

Among the 1200-strong pile on included Vidya Krishnan, a freelance journalist, who accused Lammy of having never heard of India or Bengal; Channel 4 host Chanté Joseph who accused him of being on crack; and New York-based writer Aditya Mukerjee, who says Churchill committed genocide.

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Guido presumes now-cancelled Lammy’s party membership application to Lawrence Fox’s Reclaim Party is in the post…
 
Looks like we're heading for an 'Australian-style' (aka No Deal) outcome then. Why don't they call it a *****lian-style arrangement I wonder? Australia, of course, are desperately trying to get a trade deal with the EU.
 
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Looks like we're heading for an 'Australian-style' (aka No Deal) outcome then. Why don't they call it a *****lian-style arrangement I wonder? Australia, of course, are desperately trying to get a trade deal with the EU.

Our gdp is twice Australia's and much less agriculture to undercut EU producers. I still think we are in a period of brinkmanship and some compromise will be reached on lpf, fishing and governance once the EU understand the UK is in earnest, which it is.
 
Looks like we're heading for an 'Australian-style' (aka No Deal) outcome then. Why don't they call it a *****lian-style arrangement I wonder? Australia, of course, are desperately trying to get a trade deal with the EU.

Wish I’d had a bet on when Johnson declared it was a one in a million chance.

Stupid ****s in the shires will blame EU intransigence as the stock phrase of choice while simultaneously being delighted at the ‘clean’ break.
 
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Surely only the most committed devotees to the EU cult will fail to see that the EU have repeatedly put obstacles in the way of a deal in the full knowledge that those demands were so far away from what we would ever agree to?
Their latest gambit being ever more ridiculous demands on fishing, attempted blackmail over banning our hauliers and airlines.

They know full well that these demands will never be met. From day one, as many leaders of the EU admitted, their sole aim has been to punish the UK for leaving their undemocratic boy's club and ensuring no other Country has the temerity to try the same thing.

It's been reported that the UK have been making concessions over the last few weeks, but the EU simply won't budge.

I, and I suspect a great many others who voted leave, would have accepted a slightly watered down agreement to ensure against the undoubted problems that will arise from a no deal.

The EU are ensuring this can't happen, unless it's all brinkmanship still and both sides give a fair bit to get a deal.
 
Surely only the most committed devotees to the EU cult will fail to see that the EU have repeatedly put obstacles in the way of a deal in the full knowledge that those demands were so far away from what we would ever agree to?
Their latest gambit being ever more ridiculous demands on fishing, attempted blackmail over banning our hauliers and airlines.

They know full well that these demands will never be met. From day one, as many leaders of the EU admitted, their sole aim has been to punish the UK for leaving their undemocratic boy's club and ensuring no other Country has the temerity to try the same thing.

It's been reported that the UK have been making concessions over the last few weeks, but the EU simply won't budge.

I, and I suspect a great many others who voted leave, would have accepted a slightly watered down agreement to ensure against the undoubted problems that will arise from a no deal.

The EU are ensuring this can't happen, unless it's all brinkmanship still and both sides give a fair bit to get a deal.

While I think it’s perfectly right to expect us to maintain certain minimum standards and to not trust the UK to adhere to any deal willingly, given we’re essentially being run by a small but vocal cabal of disaster capitalists, I do think it’s a step too far for the EU to have the power to raise those minimum standards and expect us to have to flex with that. Then again, they’re the far stronger party to the negotiation so not sure what the **** anyone expected or why it’ll be any different when negotiating with any of the other far larger world powers.

Can’t really be bothered to respond to the rest of the uneducated waffle frankly after four and a half years but I do agree the EU can take a chunk of the blame if it all ends in nothing. As has always been the case though, their citizens will be relatively unaffected as much as we bleat about them needing us.