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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. daverangers

    daverangers Well-Known Member

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    A number of factors have affected it...but since the implementation of a far more insular mindset in the US. The racial division in the USA, on top of the terrorist attacks in Paris over the past few years, meant that tourism (an industry I worked in for eight years) has been massively hit. Even before the Coronavirus tourism was massively down, and the first question I was often asked by tourists was, 'are we safe here in Paris with all the people from different cultures?' I noticed the change in mindset over the years, and found it quite surprising.
     
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  2. colognehornet

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    I actually long for the day when the election for president of the USA is of no more significance than an election in Angola. Whichever president you get over the pond doesn't change the fact that the USA is still the biggest threat to World peace there is - the sooner we wake up to that and start to establish our alliances elsewhere to counter the USA the better.
     
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    Arizona appearing a vital vote, leaning to Biden. Huge postal ballot there apparently. Suspect that will be at the centre of any Trump legal contest
     
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  4. Bwood_Ranger

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    Probably something to do with not wanting millions of votes to count.
     
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  5. ELLERS

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    Or you for that.
     
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  6. kiwiqpr

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    Establish alliances elsewhere such as where
     
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  7. ELLERS

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    Yeah last night in one of the states they were saying people could still vote long after the deadline. I found that strange? All seems to be going to the surprem court.
     
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  8. kiwiqpr

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    Are you any less safe in Paris or Austria depending on who the president of America is
     
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  9. Bwood_Ranger

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    We’ve got a very exciting trade deal with Narnia.
     
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  10. colognehornet

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    I also notice that many of the European hard right extremists have recognised Trump as one of their own and have become emboldened by it. Neo Nazi groups in Europe have, traditionally, tended to be anti American in the past but, since Trump's tenure in office, there has been much more trans atlantic cooperation with American neo nazi groups - the rise of Qanon influence amongst the European right is an obvious example of this.
     
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  11. ELLERS

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    Are you still moaning about Brexit? Old record mate. Jezza lost, people voted to leave. Move on
     
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  12. ELLERS

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    <laugh>
     
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  13. Goldhawk-Road

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    Wonder how this would be going if the Democrats hadn’t embraced BLM, denied and justified rioting, and toyed with defunding the police. The cultural left is a killer for social democrats.
     
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    Yeah mate
    But it's Narnia
    No travel restrictions as long as you have access to a wardrobe
     
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    Wasn't Obama president during the Paris attacks?
     
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    No, the President of the USA makes no difference to safety here. Having a President who is very insular, and paints Paris as a dangerous place due to terrorism is what makes a difference. When I started working in tourism here, in 2011, it wasn't uncommon for the company I worked for to have 60 - 80 customers a day, the majority of whom were from the USA. When I finished working for that company, in 2018, we'd have a maximum of 20 - 30 people on a busy day. As I say, I know that is not entirely down to the President of the US, but the attitude and message about terrorism and Europe that has come out of the White House has not helped encourage people from the USA to travel here.
     
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    This stuff doesn’t just happen overnight. These attacks are in some part the result of US (and UK) decisions going back decades. You can even blame Blair for his part if you like.
     
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    During the 2015 Charlie Hebdo attacks, yes it was Obama, but sadly there have been a few other smaller incidents since then.
     
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  19. kiwiqpr

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    Maybe we should just ban presidents of America
    Nothing bad would happen then
     
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    Okay then in 20 years we can blame Trump if some idiot starts shooting people?
     
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