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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
kiwiqpr said:
How has anyone on here been affected by the president of another country they couldn't vote for in the last four years
How do you expect to be affected by the president of another country you can't vote for in the next four years
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A number of factors have affected it...but since the implementation of a far more insular mindset in the US. The racial division in the USA, on top of the terrorist attacks in Paris over the past few years, meant that tourism (an industry I worked in for eight years) has been massively hit. Even before the Coronavirus tourism was massively down, and the first question I was often asked by tourists was, 'are we safe here in Paris with all the people from different cultures?' I noticed the change in mindset over the years, and found it quite surprising.
 
kiwiqpr said:
How has anyone on here been affected by the president of another country they couldn't vote for in the last four years
How do you expect to be affected by the president of another country you can't vote for in the next four years
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I actually long for the day when the election for president of the USA is of no more significance than an election in Angola. Whichever president you get over the pond doesn't change the fact that the USA is still the biggest threat to World peace there is - the sooner we wake up to that and start to establish our alliances elsewhere to counter the USA the better.
 
Arizona appearing a vital vote, leaning to Biden. Huge postal ballot there apparently. Suspect that will be at the centre of any Trump legal contest
 
ELLERS said:
I sat up and watched it most of the night and I don't see how anyone can say he is trying to cheat or how he can claim victory.
Trump is still marginally favourite... 8 point poll lead? <doh>
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Probably something to do with not wanting millions of votes to count.
 
colognehornet said:
I actually long for the day when the election for president of the USA is of no more significance than an election in Angola. Whichever president you get over the pond doesn't change the fact that the USA is still the biggest threat to World peace there is - the sooner we wake up to that and start to establish our alliances elsewhere to counter the USA the better.
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Establish alliances elsewhere such as where
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Arizona appearing a vital vote, leaning to Biden. Huge postal ballot there apparently. Suspect that will be at the centre of any Trump legal contest
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Yeah last night in one of the states they were saying people could still vote long after the deadline. I found that strange? All seems to be going to the surprem court.
 
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daverangers said:
A number of factors have affected it...but since the implementation of a far more insular mindset in the US. The racial division in the USA, on top of the terrorist attacks in Paris over the past few years, meant that tourism (an industry I worked in for eight years) has been massively hit. Even before the Coronavirus tourism was massively down, and the first question I was often asked by tourists was, 'are we safe here in Paris with all the people from different cultures?' I noticed the change in mindset over the years, and found it quite surprising.
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Are you any less safe in Paris or Austria depending on who the president of America is
 
kiwiqpr said:
How has anyone on here been affected by the president of another country they couldn't vote for in the last four years
How do you expect to be affected by the president of another country you can't vote for in the next four years
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I also notice that many of the European hard right extremists have recognised Trump as one of their own and have become emboldened by it. Neo Nazi groups in Europe have, traditionally, tended to be anti American in the past but, since Trump's tenure in office, there has been much more trans atlantic cooperation with American neo nazi groups - the rise of Qanon influence amongst the European right is an obvious example of this.
 
colognehornet said:
I also notice that many of the European hard right extremists have recognised Trump as one of their own and have become emboldened by it. Neo Nazi groups in Europe have, traditionally, tended to be anti American in the past but, since Trump's tenure in office, there has been much more trans atlantic cooperation with American neo nazi groups - the rise of Qanon influence amongst the European right is an obvious example of this.
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Nick Timothy
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Wonder how this would be going if the Democrats hadn’t embraced BLM, denied and justified rioting, and toyed with defunding the police. The cultural left is a killer for social democrats.
 
kiwiqpr said:
Are you any less safe in Paris or Austria depending on who the president of America is
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No, the President of the USA makes no difference to safety here. Having a President who is very insular, and paints Paris as a dangerous place due to terrorism is what makes a difference. When I started working in tourism here, in 2011, it wasn't uncommon for the company I worked for to have 60 - 80 customers a day, the majority of whom were from the USA. When I finished working for that company, in 2018, we'd have a maximum of 20 - 30 people on a busy day. As I say, I know that is not entirely down to the President of the US, but the attitude and message about terrorism and Europe that has come out of the White House has not helped encourage people from the USA to travel here.
 
West WindsR said:
This stuff doesn’t just happen overnight. These attacks are in some part the result of US (and UK) decisions going back decades. You can even blame Blair for his part if you like.
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Okay then in 20 years we can blame Trump if some idiot starts shooting people?
 
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