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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Staines R's said:
I think it’ll be the finally nail in the coffin of the British Left...sad to see
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It did look as though Starmer was looking for a way to get rid of her. An actress writes an article that contains an unsubstantiated fact that is questionably anti semitic, but could also simply be a go at Israel's right wing government. RLB retweets and endorses the whole article, and she's out of the shadow cabinet without even a conversation with Starmer. That's pretty tough, but may be it's what Starmer promised the Jewish community.

I don't think the Left will disappear. They may split from Labour. Clearly there are two parties within one party. Brexit solved a similar problem for the Tories. I can't see a neat solution for Labour atm.
 
West WindsR said:
Or it loses them a relatively small number of uber-lefties and opens them up to the “don’t like dem Tories really but couldn’t vote for Corbyn cos he was going to give my house to immigrants and tax me 99.9%” larger group.

If in four years should Johnson last that long people still want Johnson over Starmer then fine but at least they’ll have to admit it’s due to the holy Brexit and/or convincing themselves they’ll be financially better off for it.
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Starmer could have taken the Tory approach to islamaphobia and just bury it, much better right?
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
It did look as though Starmer was looking for a way to get rid of her. An actress writes an article that contains an unsubstantiated fact that is questionably anti semitic, but could also simply be a go at Israel's right wing government. RLB retweets and endorses the whole article, and she's out of the shadow cabinet without even a conversation with Starmer. That's pretty tough, but may be it's what Starmer promised the Jewish community.

I don't think the Left will disappear. They may split from Labour. Clearly there are two parties within one party. Brexit solved a similar problem for the Tories. I can't see a neat solution for Labour atm.
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Bottom line is it shows how thick RLB is when a zero-tolerance warning had been issued, unless she has deliberately created the situation as a 'challenge'. Either way Labour is hopelessly split and Momentum's grip seems over...
 
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I'm loving all this and thoroughly looking forward to living in a world where nobody says anything for fear of causing offence. I've probably offended Aspasia sufferers now, but I'll be joining them when the quacks cut that pesky tumour out of my throat. Can you be ostracised for giving anybody a funny look yet?
 
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Steelmonkey said:
They've got principals - just not ones the majority of us would hold dear any more.

Being a politician is now seen as a career as opposed to a duty to your local electorate these days
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Pretty ironic when they earn twice the UK average income

Work for the people that pay me??? Outrageous suggestion!
 
Glasgow & West Scotland

'Serious' incident shuts down Glasgow city centre
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Armed police are dealing with a "serious incident" which has shut down part of Glasgow city centre.

There is a heavy police presence on West George Street with more than a dozen police vehicles at the scene.

Police Scotland have yet to confirm the nature of the incident, but a man was seen leaving a building with his hands up.

A statement from the force said the situation was "contained" and there was no danger to the general public.

Witness Craig Milroy, who saw the aftermath of the incident from an office building nearby, said he had seen four people taken away in ambulances.

He told the PA news agency: "I saw a man lying on the ground, of African descent, with no shoes on. He was on the ground with someone holding his side - I don't know if it was a bullet wound, a stab wound, or what it was."

Mr Milroy said the man was one of the four taken away by medics and believed him to be a victim of an attack.

He added: "After that we saw commotion, ambulances further up and we saw armed police all running into the hotel next to the Society Room.

"We were still standing outside, after that the police all came down, the riot police and triage team told us to go back in and lock the door."
 
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