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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Staines R's said:
I’ve got a lot worse/better than that my slippery chum.

I think you made it up about ever apologising to anyone...didn’t you ?
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Mmm becoming a bit of a bully now Staines? I’m sorry I called you out on your sick joke about a stroke on an old lady but I was surprised to hear that. I have a friend who is doctor, I have
known him for years, out on stag do’s/parties/pubs. Even as a doctor he can have a laugh/drink have fun, however I have heard him make jokes about strokes and old ladies.... I guess everyone is different.
 
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QPR Oslo said:
No 2 separate issues which I put in 2 separate posts. Go read the Guardian on the Investigation on Kremlim impact on Brexit and money flows into the Conservative Party. Obviously this needs publishing to day, last time possible before the GE. No 10 holding it back. Suspect the leaks before the GE will make it worse for the Tories, and so probably a good idea to hold it back! The Report must be pretty damming if it's publication is furthered delayed beyond the already overdue time.
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I mentioned technical breaches in relation to Vote Leave's referral to the CPS. You referred to the Intelligence and Security Commission's report on Russia. I'm not aware of any established connection. None of us know why the Met Police have referred Vote Leave to the CPS, but as I say, it's probably electoral funding rules.

I agree the report on Russian interference should be published if it contains verified information. Bear in mind, the commission is chaired by an extreme Remainer, Grieve, so if the report contains a lot of scaremongering supposition designed to undermine the 2016 referendum, then it may not be worth the paper it's written on. I imagine this is what No 10 is focusing on. I had a look at the make up of the committee and Brexit voting record. Here's what I found:

Grieve (chairman) Remain
Benyan - Remain
Hosie - Remain
Flint - Remain
Hanson - Remain
Lord Janvin - Remain
Kevan Jones - Remain campaigner
Michael Ancram - reluctant Brexit
Keith Simpson - Remain
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
I mentioned technical breaches in relation to Vote Leave's referral to the CPS. You referred to the Intelligence and Security Commission's report on Russia. I'm not aware of any established connection. None of us know why the Met Police have referred Vote Leave to the CPS, but as I say, it's probably electoral funding rules.

I agree the report on Russian interference should be published if it contains verified information. Bear in mind, the commission is chaired by an extreme Remainer, Grieve, so if the report contains a lot of scaremongering supposition designed to undermine the 2016 referendum, then it may not be worth the paper it's written on. I imagine this is what No 10 is focusing on. I had a look at the make up of the committee and Brexit voting record. Here's what I found:

Grieve (chairman) Remain
Benyan - Remain
Hosie - Remain
Flint - Remain
Hanson - Remain
Lord Janvin - Remain
Kevan Jones - Remain campaigner
Michael Ancram - reluctant Brexit
Keith Simpson - Remain
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It’s not just that lot in a room deciding what to write.
 
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ELLERS said:
Mmm becoming a bit of a bully now Staines? I’m sorry I called you out on your sick joke about a stroke on an old lady but I was surprised to hear that. I have a friend who is doctor, I have
known him for years, out on stag do’s/parties/pubs. Even as a doctor he can have a laugh/drink have fun, however I have heard him make jokes about strokes and old ladies.... I guess everyone is different.
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Mornin’ Eelers........I see you’re still more slippery than a box full of catfish. You have so many friends (one for every occasion it seems), wish I was so popular.
From your post it seems your Dr ‘friend’ also has a warped sense of humour......I guess it’s just the nature of the job we do.
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
I mentioned technical breaches in relation to Vote Leave's referral to the CPS. You referred to the Intelligence and Security Commission's report on Russia. I'm not aware of any established connection. None of us know why the Met Police have referred Vote Leave to the CPS, but as I say, it's probably electoral funding rules.

I agree the report on Russian interference should be published if it contains verified information. Bear in mind, the commission is chaired by an extreme Remainer, Grieve, so if the report contains a lot of scaremongering supposition designed to undermine the 2016 referendum, then it may not be worth the paper it's written on. I imagine this is what No 10 is focusing on. I had a look at the make up of the committee and Brexit voting record. Here's what I found:

Grieve (chairman) Remain
Benyan - Remain
Hosie - Remain
Flint - Remain
Hanson - Remain
Lord Janvin - Remain
Kevan Jones - Remain campaigner
Michael Ancram - reluctant Brexit
Keith Simpson - Remain
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Is everything in life now based on who voted leave or remain? I'm glad you agree that this report should be published for the public to make up their minds. As you say, it may not report anything of substance, it may be a load of ****e but we are not being given the opportunity to scrutinise it. Infact this government doesnt like any form of scrutiny whatsoever.
 
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bobmid said:
Is everything in life now based on who voted leave or remain? I'm glad you agree that this report should be published for the public to make up their minds. As you say, it may not report anything of substance, it may be a load of ****e but we are not being given the opportunity to scrutinise it. Infact this government doesnt like any form of scrutiny whatsoever.
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The problem is, Bob, that it would be easy for an extreme Remainer like Grieve to put in a one-sided report to undermine the 2016 referendum, just before the GE. It seems to me, government has a duty to test every assertion in the report and also look for what may have been left out.

I'm afraid Leave and Remain loyalities are extremely important, because as you know, there are many MP's in this Remaiin biased Parliament that want to stop Brexit.
 
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A rumour of a 120m 'brexit festival' being planned. Add that to the 100m spent on a wasted advertising campaign. Add that to the 2.5 billion that chris Grayling spaffed away!! No wonder theres not a magic money tree!! Monet well spent guys
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
The problem is, Bob, that it would be easy for an extreme Remainer like Grieve to put in a one-sided report to undermine the 2016 referendum, just before the GE. It seems to me, government has a duty to test every assertion in the report and also look for what may have been left out.

I'm afraid Leave and Remain loyalities are extremely important, because as you know, there are many MP's in this Remaiin biased Parliament that want to stop Brexit.
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I agree they want to stop brexit because it will make our country poorer! What a treacherous set of bastards they are hey! The simple thing would be to publish an economic impact assesment of their great, excellent deal, publish the report on potential russian interference and show us some actual policies. Not much to ask and might actually attract votes hey?!?!?
 
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I'm keeping an open mind on this report regardless of who wrote it. I will make my own mind up on it, if it's ever published! Ask yourself why they wont publish it! As the slippery Eel once said, no smoke without fire and as the Goldmeister once said, circumstantial evidence is still evidence!
 
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bobmid said:
I agree they want to stop brexit because it will make our country poorer! What a treacherous set of bastards they are hey! The simple thing would be to publish an economic impact assesment of their great, excellent deal, publish the report on potential russian interference and show us some actual policies. Not much to ask and might actually attract votes hey?!?!?
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No. We want short, sharp statements that are utterly meaningless and often impossible but a Wetherspoon’s patron can understand after six pints of IPA.

Get Brexit done!!!!!!
Leave means Leave!!!
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
I mentioned technical breaches in relation to Vote Leave's referral to the CPS. You referred to the Intelligence and Security Commission's report on Russia. I'm not aware of any established connection. None of us know why the Met Police have referred Vote Leave to the CPS, but as I say, it's probably electoral funding rules.

I agree the report on Russian interference should be published if it contains verified information. Bear in mind, the commission is chaired by an extreme Remainer, Grieve, so if the report contains a lot of scaremongering supposition designed to undermine the 2016 referendum, then it may not be worth the paper it's written on. I imagine this is what No 10 is focusing on. I had a look at the make up of the committee and Brexit voting record. Here's what I found:

Grieve (chairman) Remain
Benyan - Remain
Hosie - Remain
Flint - Remain
Hanson - Remain
Lord Janvin - Remain
Kevan Jones - Remain campaigner
Michael Ancram - reluctant Brexit
Keith Simpson - Remain
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The Guardian's report says the dossier is based on analysis by UK Intelligence agencies and 3rd party experts, including a former MI6 officer, and the dossier has subsequently been approved by them, before submittal to Borisov.
 
QPR Oslo said:
The Guardian's report says the dossier is based on analysis by UK Intelligence agencies and 3rd party experts, including a former MI6 officer, and the dossier has subsequently been approved by them, before submittal to Borisov.
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All the UK intelligence are remainers, MI6 officers and former officers, well known to be remainers and definately all 3rd party experts voted remain! It's not worth the paper it's written on! It's so easy to label it as remain scaremongering tactics that Borisov best sit on it!
 
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West WindsR said:
Very good. British intelligence did the legwork and have cleared it as safe to publish.
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QPR Oslo said:
The Guardian's report says the dossier is based on analysis by UK Intelligence agencies and 3rd party experts, including a former MI6 officer, and the dossier has subsequently been approved by them, before submittal to Borisov.
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Let's see what No 10 come up with. Grieve says it takes 10 days to clear. No 10 say six weeks. If 10 days is the norm, No.10 will have to publish or explain why the extra time is needed
 
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