Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I'm not sure this will even go through, nevermind pass parliment. Why would they pass a deal that was worse than the one before. Its bizarre how some peoples logic works.
 
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The remoanrs are quiet tonight? Normally we hear about a ”losers vote” by now. I bet they are crying in their undemocratic lattes.
 
I suppose any deal is better than a no deal. Any deal is worse than staying in the EU. It's a lose lose situation for everyone really. I for one hope it doesnt pass parliment.
 
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David Davis thinks this new deal will please enough people to get through parliament.
Funnily on another note many in the EU were saying recently that it stops no deal. I get impression that they buckled at the end.

Sounds like the DUP have the power of veto now. For the EU, the pressure is that if there is no deal, they will be faced with a Benn drafted letter for an extension from Johnson, probably with a second letter from Johnson saying if the EU gives an extension, it will represent bad faith. Difficult for the EU who may have to deal with a revived Boris after an election. They want the deal as much as Boris. Question is, what carrot has been offered to the DUP to accept an all Ireland customs union.
 
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I certainly dont want a devalued pound. It would also be nice to award construction developments to uk companies. Why dont we do that now?

Others will doubtless be greater experts on this **** but. as I understand it, under EU rules certain government contracts, such as defence work, has to be offered to a wider pool of prospective contractors than just in the country of origin.

Nothing wrong with a devalued currency as long as the reasons for doing it are understood and the ways to bottom it out and/or drag it back are understood and managed. Cheaper exports are fantastic, as is inward investment, but expensive imports are not quite so popular.
 
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Those ERG are a set of untrustworthy treacherous twats arent they!! **** May's better deal off 3 times yet jump at Boris worse deal at the first time.
 
Others will doubtless be greater experts on this **** but. as I understand it, under EU rules certain government contracts, such as defence work, has to be offered to a wider pool of prospective contractors than just in the country of origin.

Nothing wrong with a devalued currency as long as the reasons for doing it are understood and the ways to bottom it out and/or drag it back are understood and managed. Cheaper exports are fantastic, as is inward investment, but expensive imports are not quite so popular.
I wouldnt know either to be fair
 
Sounds like the DUP have the power of veto now. For the EU, the pressure is that if there is no deal, they will be faced with a Benn drafted letter for an extension from Johnson, probably with a second letter from Johnson saying if the EU gives an extension, it will represent bad faith. Difficult for the EU who may have to deal with a revived Boris after an election. They want the deal as much as Boris. Question is, what carrot has been offered to the DUP to accept an all Ireland customs union.
Yeah agree Telegraph fella said yesterday that if Boris gets stitched up by parliament the public would support him and he would win a GE on a no deal with labour losing many seats to The Brexit party. I don't think the EU would want that.
Re DUP... I guess a few billion might be heading their way.
 
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If there's a Brexit deal, I doubt the SNP would win. The irony is, Sturgeon's best hope for Scottish independence is a No Deal on Brexit
Caught a bit of Sturgeon on the radio today and she was talking about non Indyref2/Brexit issues but it's so clear that Independence is the only thing she's gives a **** about, it's the be all and end all. Any other issues she's just paying lip service to and going through the motions. Pretending to be so passionate about our EU membership when her country would have (and will be) out of it if she got/gets her way.
 
Caught a bit of Sturgeon on the radio today and she was talking about non Indyref2/Brexit issues but it's so clear that Independence is the only thing she's gives a **** about, it's the be all and end all. Any other issues she's just paying lip service to and going through the motions. Pretending to be so passionate about our EU membership when her country would have (and will be) out of it if she got/gets her way.
The EU won't want to support another country if the SNP get power. They are bad enough now
 
Caught a bit of Sturgeon on the radio today and she was talking about non Indyref2/Brexit issues but it's so clear that Independence is the only thing she's gives a **** about, it's the be all and end all. Any other issues she's just paying lip service to and going through the motions. Pretending to be so passionate about our EU membership when her country would have (and will be) out of it if she got/gets her way.

Exactly!
 
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