Off Topic The Politics Thread

[DT’s Socks]

Interesting, thank you. But none of that explains the disillusionment. Carrying out operations for Queen & Country will no doubt leave a scar, but what in your opinion has made the UK culture what it is, something you detest?

BTW, I agree that the UK culture - if that is the right description - is nowhere to what it felt like as a kid. Those on the left and right will no doubt blame each other for any deterioration.

I would say a blend of consumption, greed and media styles have contributed strongly to the state of the nation.

Couple that with the on going digital revolution and the crazy relentless quest of our housing market. The breakdown of family culture influenced by all of the above

If you would like direct comparisons?
Then I will have a go after I am out of the hospital where I find myself today again getting brilliant treatment

 

[Uber_Hoop]

I would say a blend of consumption, greed and media styles have contributed strongly to the state of the nation.

Couple that with the on going digital revolution and the crazy relentless quest of our housing market. The breakdown of family culture influenced by all of the above

If you would like direct comparisons?
Then I will have a go after I am out of the hospital where I find myself today again getting brilliant treatment

My biggest beef is that we have created a culture of entitlement amongst too many people. There are, of course, myriad reasons for the ****tiness of things and there are answers to be found in the thoughts of the Left and the Right, as well as blame to be attributed.

I believe that you underestimate the resourcefulness and determination of the plucky Brit, though, and that this nation will rediscover a lot of its long-dormant mojo after Brexit. Of course, there will be some pain initially - to think otherwise would be ridiculous - and we have to have in place to means to help those most adversely impacted - but it believe it nonetheless.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

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[Uber_Hoop]

What happened to two MPs?

It is, of course, the Nambies, SNP and so forth where the majority of the Remainers are.

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[Turkish" Premier" Hoops]

To what era in history would you need to rewind to in order to find a set of circumstances upon which you’d back Britain against any other country?

Probably a few seconds after the dinosaurs died and the ice age, and even then would probably move himself to France or Germany because they had nice cheese and wine and considered us as imperialistic and snobbish and washed up and useless ‘cause we were no longer attached to the European land mass.

 

[DT’s Socks]

Probably a few seconds after the dinosaurs died and the ice age, and even then would probably move himself to France or Germany because they had nice cheese and wine and considered us as imperialistic and snobbish and washed up and useless ‘cause we were no longer attached to the European land mass.

English cheese for me can’t be beaten

 

[Stroller]

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That referendum was over three years ago Uber, it's out of date.

 

[DT’s Socks]

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Try looking at town and county mice I would say but can’t argue with the facts. By the way The blucky Brit is programmed to look after his own castle imo hence my non faith in your view ... in fact I see that as wide of the mark in terms of reality. In short we got fat and lazy then self obsessed... long way back for a divided country.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

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I can verify it’s ****ing stupid.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

I can verify it’s ****ing stupid.

Please explain.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

That referendum was over three years ago Uber, it's out of date.

So are you and I.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

Try looking at town and county mice I would say but can’t argue with the facts. By the way The blucky Brit is programmed to look after his own castle imo hence my non faith in your view ... in fact I see that as wide of the mark in terms of reality. In short we got fat and lazy then self obsessed... long way back for a divided country.

The blucky (sic) Frenchman, I would argue, considers his ‘castle’ to extend to any European law not to his liking. Frankly, I wish the blucky Brit had half the Frog chutzpah.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

That referendum was over three years ago Uber, it's out of date.

Let’s have a new law that if any elected government fails to implement any of its key manifesto pledges within 3 years the result of the General Election is overturned and the Nambies are allowed to form a coalition with the Greens.

No, wait! You lefties would love it.

 

[bobmid]

Let’s have a new law that if any elected government fails to implement any of its key manifesto pledges within 3 years the result of the General Election is overturned and the Nambies are allowed to form a coalition with the Greens.

No, wait! You lefties would love it.

We should make a law that allows me to do what the **** I like when I like.

 

[bobmid]

In all fairness, theres a few in my family and extended family that will be affected by our loss of free movement to the 27 other EU countries.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

We should make a law that allows me to do what the **** I like when I like.

I thought you already did?

 

[bobmid]

I thought you already did?

Wife mate, wife

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

In all fairness, theres a few in my family and extended family that will be affected by our loss of free movement to the 27 other EU countries.

Is that through work or pleasure (holidays), Bob?

 

[DT’s Socks]

The blucky (sic) Frenchman, I would argue, considers his ‘castle’ to extend to any European law not to his liking. Frankly, I wish the blucky Brit had half the Frog chutzpah.

Well I have found unity over 30 years or more that if the French don’t like something they unite pretty quickly.

I think the difference is they haven’t forgotten that political representatives work for them.
Downside to that is that the political establishment also know that so you get a lot of red tape. Sadly to me anyway I don’t see the same unity in the UK as I believe culturally we all seem to know best and large collective unity in the UK isn’t was it used to be imo. Maybe it’s a result of the unions being stripped of power? I know not but I must state there is a difference.

 

[kiwiqpr]

In all fairness, theres a few in my family and extended family that will be affected by our loss of free movement to the 27 other EU countries.

it will be quite stressful for them having to go online and get a visa