Off Topic The Politics Thread

Stroller · Jul 23, 2019

sb_73 said:
Good for Johnson and perhaps Swinson if he stays where he is. If the rumours about his health have any credence he might go, and his support from the grassroots, especially on Brexit (Labour members rather than voters) is fading fast. But he’s not very savvy and the health of the Labour Party, as opposed to pushing his own, outdated, agenda, has never been his top concern, he’s spent most of his career at odds with whoever the party leadership were.

Johnson might be more concerned about Farage, will be interesting to see what he campaigns on, might have to be no deal Brexit to negate the Brexit Party. Fun times.

He's painted himself into a corner, and would have to campaign for a no deal Brexit. Which is why he would lose.

rangercol · Jul 23, 2019

Stroller said:
He's painted himself into a corner, and would have to campaign for a no deal Brexit. Which is why he would lose.

Yes, but who will win?

Stroller · Jul 23, 2019

rangercol said:
Yes, but who will win?

Nobody, I reckon. It would be another hung parliament, with probably Labour as the biggest party.

DT’s Socks · Jul 23, 2019

Uber_Hoop said:
Having myself just gone through an acrimonious divorce, I’m beginning to think that, having been presented with the now (thankfully) ex-Mrs Uber’s exorbitant financial demands as reward for her part in an unpleasant near 20-year union, I should’ve realised that I didn’t want to be divorced in the first place. Quite clearly, I didn’t fully understand the question of divorce when initially presented with the facts.

Why yes, why shouldn’t I continue to put up with her lying, cheating, narcissistic ways for the rest of my time on earth, whilst paying through the nose every day for the privilege of maintaining this unhappy union?

Free movement of people? Yep, mostly men, though.

Silly me.

I’m off for a **** and a slice of carrot cake.

Once the hurt is gone and it will go believe me you will feel empowered and she will become weak Regardless of the time you have lost you will get it all back ... my ex wives don’t even get a reply from me anymore. You will get your upgrade and I look forward to the day you feel wish I had done this earlier... relationships are often dead before we even understand how to admit it

If she cheated ? Then the final bill will be massive for her guaranteed Uber old kiddy ... I couldn’t see that but it’s true Keep clean and true and you will win every time. Use your hurt to empower you as it will never completely go anyway

Anger is a energy channelled correctly will recharge but I would say never take your ****e to someone else ... it will fail

Get plenty of new experiences under your belt mate

Also if she did cheat ? Then the other man is a rat imo ... men who do that are the lowest of all men

Uber_Hoop · Jul 23, 2019

DT’s Socks said:
Once the hurt is gone and it will go believe me you will feel empowered and she will become weak Regardless of the time you have lost you will get it all back ... my ex wives don’t even get a reply from me anymore. You will get your upgrade and I look forward to the day you feel wish I had done this earlier... relationships are often dead before we even understand how to admit it

If she cheated ? Then the final bill will be massive for her guaranteed Uber old kiddy ... I couldn’t see that but it’s true Keep clean and true and you will win every time. Use your hurt to empower you as it will never completely go anyway

Anger is a energy channelled correctly will recharge but I would say never take your ****e to someone else ... it will fail

Get plenty of new experiences under your belt mate

Also if she did cheat ? Then the other man is a rat imo ... men who do that are the lowest of all men

No, I didn't. Not all the time anyway. Yes.

DT’s Socks · Jul 23, 2019

Have to say I like Boris Johnson plus I have never disliked Trump however trendy it is to rip him

Both are clever imo

Still think 100% that our country would far better off in the Union

DT’s Socks · Jul 23, 2019

Uber_Hoop said:
No, I didn't. Not all the time anyway. Yes.

Get out sunshine and if you get the option choose a new partner from any other country than the U.K. The infection runs deep imo

We all do it our own way for me gave everything away ... liberating stuff my sons who paid the real price are now like mini brothers

Wish you well

sb_73 · Jul 23, 2019

rangercol said:
Yes, but who will win?

Stroller said:
Nobody, I reckon. It would be another hung parliament, with probably Labour as the biggest party.

Farage and the electorate as the wild cards. I reckon big reductions in the votes cast for Tories and Labour, but with our electoral system that doesn’t necessarily equate to seats lost. Really hard to call but I can’t imagine Labour being the biggest single party, and I can’t imagine potential coalition partners rallying around Corbyn.

Real shame if it’s a Brexit dominated election, a proxy referendum with an even more confusing result, which of course it will be. Much more going on than that.

sb_73 · Jul 23, 2019

DT’s Socks said:
Have to say I like Boris Johnson plus I have never disliked Trump however trendy it is to rip him

Both are clever imo

Still think 100% that our country would far better off in the Union

Both have lived lives which leads them to believe they are entitled to things, especially adulation and power, and that the rules that apply to other ‘little’ people don’t apply to them, because they think they are virile, decisive and born leaders. So both lie habitually and don’t even recognise that they are doing it, both treat other humans, especially women, as chattel, both can’t take criticism without lashing out.

Trump has far more to him than Johnson though. At least Trump will answer a question directly, even though he will change the answer the next day (or minute if necessary). Neither has anything on their role model (Johnson on record praising him) Silvio Berlusconi, another sociopath, and a criminal one at that, but at least one who is a genuinely self made man. Putin, and at the top of the tree Xi, are the top dogs in this game of who has got the biggest bollocks.

None of them care anything for any other human being except themselves.

In my opinion.

Stroller · Jul 23, 2019

sb_73 said:
Farage and the electorate as the wild cards. I reckon big reductions in the votes cast for Tories and Labour, but with our electoral system that doesn’t necessarily equate to seats lost. Really hard to call but I can’t imagine Labour being the biggest single party, and I can’t imagine potential coalition partners rallying around Corbyn.

Real shame if it’s a Brexit dominated election, a proxy referendum with an even more confusing result, which of course it will be. Much more going on than that.

The timing might be difficult, but I have a feeling that Corbyn might step down before a GE. Emily Thornberry or Angela Rayner could be popular with the electorate.

Sooperhoop · Jul 23, 2019

Stroller said:
The timing might be difficult, but I have a feeling that Corbyn might step down before a GE. Emily Thornberry or Angela Rayner could be popular with the electorate.

I don't think Emily would go down well with Labour's traditional voters...

kiwiqpr · Jul 23, 2019

DT’s Socks said:
Have to say I like Boris Johnson plus I have never disliked Trump however trendy it is to rip him

Both are clever imo

Still think 100% that our country would far better off in the Union