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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Boris could accidentally (or intentionally) kill a child live on TV and people would still vote for him as he's such a lovable buffoon so it'll be interesting to see what comes of this, he's a total self serving prick.

Oh I agree, the landscape has changed so much in the last 3 years whether people choose to believe it or not. I try and think what I would be thinking and saying if Remain had won by the same small margin but its difficult to really imagine that scenario as Remain would have been more straightforward, there aren't really any different flavours or permutations unlike the aforementioned 57 varieties of Brexit so there would be less to argue about. Although as Mr Farage himself said of the possibility of a narrow Remain win "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way" so its a bit rich just about everything he has said since about respecting the result etc.

Agree Brexit caught the nation right out and gave us remainers a good old slap ... it may still prove to save us long term but I have never believed that Brexit was about leaving Europe anyway

It’s a passionate protest imo blaming others for our own decent
 
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Since Boris is being taken to court by a Remoaner who can't get over the referendum result, perhaps it's time to dredge up the lies we've been fed by Europhile politicians... Tell us what you think we should highlight as the biggest political whoppers to come out of Westminster!

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If you ever wondered why the Tory Party is in terminal decline you have only to listen to this condescending load of drivel from Baroness Wheatcroft. A perfect example of the arrogance and total disdain the Lords have for the riff-raff. If they ever introduce euthanasia she and her ilk should be first on the list...

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11 candidates and counting, only need 2 MPs to nominate, the way the voting is set up they will need 10 rounds of MPs voting before they get to the final two to put to the Tory membership, unless people drop out. What larks!

Tory party membership has boomed from about 120,000 to 160,000 in the last few months, as UKIP and Arron Banks have been encouraging nationalists to join up precisely to vote for one of their own in a leadership contest. I don’t think they needed to bother, the old guard in the counties are in full agreement with them.
 
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The Remain obsessive battling to sink BoJo: GUY ADAMS on the man who took £24,000 out of the Crowdfunded coffers to fight Boris to pay HIMSELF
By Guy Adams for the Daily Mail
Published: 07:03 AEST, 30 May 2019 | Updated: 17:18 AEST, 30 May 2019
5.3kshares
Marcus Ball hates lies. He especially hates politicians who lie, a fact trumpeted on his own page on a professional networking website which states: 'When politicians lie, democracy dies.'
This is why the 29-year-old is prosecuting Boris Johnson.
Mr Ball, pictured at court yesterday, has repeatedly insisted the case has nothing to do with a wish to frustrate Brexit.
It is simply to 'stop lying in politics'. All very noble. Yet one man's 'lie' is usually another's 'fair comment', especially in these vexed political times. So how does Mr Ball live up to his own high-minded ideals?
To find out, let us look at his personal page on the website Crowdfunder.co.uk, where he launched his legal fight in July 2016.
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So were his own aforementioned public statements lies? Did he simply misspeak? Or have his views evolved over time?
Then there's the issue of Mr Ball's finances.
The fundraising website explained: 'This is a non-profit campaign. The people involved are volunteering their time freely.'
In October 2016, Mr Ball repeated this line, saying he had 'worked unpaid on the campaign for the past three months.'
That position has evolved, too.
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Mr Ball, who launched his legal fight in July 2016, is bringing a private prosecution case against Boris Johnson
At some point, Mr Ball decided not to volunteer his time freely. He recently told an interviewer that he was paying himself a salary of 'around £24,000' from his crowd-funding kitty.
This money will have supplemented his other earnings, which according to Mr Ball's personal website, come from his varied career as a 'prosecutor', 'reformer', 'speaker' and 'writer'.
That site, which is adorned with pictures and videos of Mr Ball, represents an intriguing exercise in personal branding.
On the page devoted to his public speaking career, for example, it says that since 2010 he has earned money from 'speaking in public and teaching public speaking skills'.
The page is illustrated with the logos of a number of major institutions which have invited him to speak, including the University of Cambridge.
However, Mr Ball, who was educated at Canterbury Christ Church University in Kent, is believed to have given only one talk in Cambridge – in the last academic year, to Peterhouse College.
That appears to be the limit of his dealings with Cambridge. Intriguingly, Mr Ball's website also says he's contributed to Russia Today, the controversial Kremlin-funded TV station recently fined by Ofcom for breaching broadcasting standards during coverage of the Salisbury poisonings.
The website carries the logo (a two-headed eagle resembling a coat of arms) of an organisation called Ambition House. In fact, it's a company Mr Ball founded in 2012 to 'provide unique training and education to students and graduates' but which has since been dissolved.
Mr Ball is a director of three other companies: Think of a Name Later Ltd, a software development firm founded in 2016 but which has been dormant since then; a PR firm incorporated in 2017, which was due to file accounts last month, but hasn't.
And finally Brexit Justice Ltd, which seems to have been created to run his legal campaign against Boris Johnson, and whose latest accounts show assets of just £22,000.
Several are registered to his family home, a £630,000 property near Norwich Cathedral. Mr Ball was born in the Norfolk city in 1989, the son of a retired English teacher.
His birth certificate lists his name as Joshua Edwin Ball. At some point during adulthood, it is believed he changed it by deed poll, to Marcus, for £15. It's unclear why.
But as Boris Johnson will doubtless reflect, this is a man with a habit of seeking to re-write history.
 
The Remain obsessive battling to sink BoJo: GUY ADAMS on the man who took £24,000 out of the Crowdfunded coffers to fight Boris to pay HIMSELF
By Guy Adams for the Daily Mail
Published: 07:03 AEST, 30 May 2019 | Updated: 17:18 AEST, 30 May 2019
5.3kshares
Marcus Ball hates lies. He especially hates politicians who lie, a fact trumpeted on his own page on a professional networking website which states: 'When politicians lie, democracy dies.'
This is why the 29-year-old is prosecuting Boris Johnson.
Mr Ball, pictured at court yesterday, has repeatedly insisted the case has nothing to do with a wish to frustrate Brexit.
It is simply to 'stop lying in politics'. All very noble. Yet one man's 'lie' is usually another's 'fair comment', especially in these vexed political times. So how does Mr Ball live up to his own high-minded ideals?
To find out, let us look at his personal page on the website Crowdfunder.co.uk, where he launched his legal fight in July 2016.
You must log in or register to see images

So were his own aforementioned public statements lies? Did he simply misspeak? Or have his views evolved over time?
Then there's the issue of Mr Ball's finances.
The fundraising website explained: 'This is a non-profit campaign. The people involved are volunteering their time freely.'
In October 2016, Mr Ball repeated this line, saying he had 'worked unpaid on the campaign for the past three months.'
That position has evolved, too.
You must log in or register to see images

Mr Ball, who launched his legal fight in July 2016, is bringing a private prosecution case against Boris Johnson
At some point, Mr Ball decided not to volunteer his time freely. He recently told an interviewer that he was paying himself a salary of 'around £24,000' from his crowd-funding kitty.
This money will have supplemented his other earnings, which according to Mr Ball's personal website, come from his varied career as a 'prosecutor', 'reformer', 'speaker' and 'writer'.
That site, which is adorned with pictures and videos of Mr Ball, represents an intriguing exercise in personal branding.
On the page devoted to his public speaking career, for example, it says that since 2010 he has earned money from 'speaking in public and teaching public speaking skills'.
The page is illustrated with the logos of a number of major institutions which have invited him to speak, including the University of Cambridge.
However, Mr Ball, who was educated at Canterbury Christ Church University in Kent, is believed to have given only one talk in Cambridge – in the last academic year, to Peterhouse College.
That appears to be the limit of his dealings with Cambridge. Intriguingly, Mr Ball's website also says he's contributed to Russia Today, the controversial Kremlin-funded TV station recently fined by Ofcom for breaching broadcasting standards during coverage of the Salisbury poisonings.
The website carries the logo (a two-headed eagle resembling a coat of arms) of an organisation called Ambition House. In fact, it's a company Mr Ball founded in 2012 to 'provide unique training and education to students and graduates' but which has since been dissolved.
Mr Ball is a director of three other companies: Think of a Name Later Ltd, a software development firm founded in 2016 but which has been dormant since then; a PR firm incorporated in 2017, which was due to file accounts last month, but hasn't.
And finally Brexit Justice Ltd, which seems to have been created to run his legal campaign against Boris Johnson, and whose latest accounts show assets of just £22,000.
Several are registered to his family home, a £630,000 property near Norwich Cathedral. Mr Ball was born in the Norfolk city in 1989, the son of a retired English teacher.
His birth certificate lists his name as Joshua Edwin Ball. At some point during adulthood, it is believed he changed it by deed poll, to Marcus, for £15. It's unclear why.
But as Boris Johnson will doubtless reflect, this is a man with a habit of seeking to re-write history.
Sounds like a fantastic British entrepreneur, just the sort that Boris and Jake love.
 
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The Remain obsessive battling to sink BoJo: GUY ADAMS on the man who took £24,000 out of the Crowdfunded coffers to fight Boris to pay HIMSELF
By Guy Adams for the Daily Mail
Published: 07:03 AEST, 30 May 2019 | Updated: 17:18 AEST, 30 May 2019
5.3kshares
Marcus Ball hates lies. He especially hates politicians who lie, a fact trumpeted on his own page on a professional networking website which states: 'When politicians lie, democracy dies.'
This is why the 29-year-old is prosecuting Boris Johnson.
Mr Ball, pictured at court yesterday, has repeatedly insisted the case has nothing to do with a wish to frustrate Brexit.
It is simply to 'stop lying in politics'. All very noble. Yet one man's 'lie' is usually another's 'fair comment', especially in these vexed political times. So how does Mr Ball live up to his own high-minded ideals?
To find out, let us look at his personal page on the website Crowdfunder.co.uk, where he launched his legal fight in July 2016.
You must log in or register to see images

So were his own aforementioned public statements lies? Did he simply misspeak? Or have his views evolved over time?
Then there's the issue of Mr Ball's finances.
The fundraising website explained: 'This is a non-profit campaign. The people involved are volunteering their time freely.'
In October 2016, Mr Ball repeated this line, saying he had 'worked unpaid on the campaign for the past three months.'
That position has evolved, too.
You must log in or register to see images

Mr Ball, who launched his legal fight in July 2016, is bringing a private prosecution case against Boris Johnson
At some point, Mr Ball decided not to volunteer his time freely. He recently told an interviewer that he was paying himself a salary of 'around £24,000' from his crowd-funding kitty.
This money will have supplemented his other earnings, which according to Mr Ball's personal website, come from his varied career as a 'prosecutor', 'reformer', 'speaker' and 'writer'.
That site, which is adorned with pictures and videos of Mr Ball, represents an intriguing exercise in personal branding.
On the page devoted to his public speaking career, for example, it says that since 2010 he has earned money from 'speaking in public and teaching public speaking skills'.
The page is illustrated with the logos of a number of major institutions which have invited him to speak, including the University of Cambridge.
However, Mr Ball, who was educated at Canterbury Christ Church University in Kent, is believed to have given only one talk in Cambridge – in the last academic year, to Peterhouse College.
That appears to be the limit of his dealings with Cambridge. Intriguingly, Mr Ball's website also says he's contributed to Russia Today, the controversial Kremlin-funded TV station recently fined by Ofcom for breaching broadcasting standards during coverage of the Salisbury poisonings.
The website carries the logo (a two-headed eagle resembling a coat of arms) of an organisation called Ambition House. In fact, it's a company Mr Ball founded in 2012 to 'provide unique training and education to students and graduates' but which has since been dissolved.
Mr Ball is a director of three other companies: Think of a Name Later Ltd, a software development firm founded in 2016 but which has been dormant since then; a PR firm incorporated in 2017, which was due to file accounts last month, but hasn't.
And finally Brexit Justice Ltd, which seems to have been created to run his legal campaign against Boris Johnson, and whose latest accounts show assets of just £22,000.
Several are registered to his family home, a £630,000 property near Norwich Cathedral. Mr Ball was born in the Norfolk city in 1989, the son of a retired English teacher.
His birth certificate lists his name as Joshua Edwin Ball. At some point during adulthood, it is believed he changed it by deed poll, to Marcus, for £15. It's unclear why.
But as Boris Johnson will doubtless reflect, this is a man with a habit of seeking to re-write history.

I couldn't give a ****. Johnson is an habitual liar. It's brilliant that he has been summoned to appear in court to try to defend a lie that even Farage couldn't justify.
 
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If you ever wondered why the Tory Party is in terminal decline you have only to listen to this condescending load of drivel from Baroness Wheatcroft. A perfect example of the arrogance and total disdain the Lords have for the riff-raff. If they ever introduce euthanasia she and her ilk should be first on the list...

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Cannot stand the woman. Fortunately she does the Remain rabble no favours
 
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Merkel tells @CNN in Germany "There is to this day not a single Synagogue not a single daycare center for Jewish children, not a single school for Jewish children that does not need to be guarded by German policemen.”
 
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ONE OF THESE MEN SAID THIS (According to The Guardian)

"If you want to pull a drunk girl, offer to take her home and name her breasts.

To get her to leave after sex, suggest she might be accidentally infected with Aids"

. But which one:

1. Donald Trump

or

2. John Bercow
 
Germany will veto Brexit extension unless UK holds a public vote, senior MP warns

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Nortbert Röttgen, a senior German MP, said Chancellor Angela Merkel (right) would not allow another extension if no clear progress has been made in the UK by October Credit: AFP
30 May 2019 • 12:29pm
Germany will block another delay to Brexit at the European Council unless the UK announces a second referendum or general election by October, the Bundestag's foreign affairs committee chair has warned.
In a sign that Berlin is near the end of its tether on Brexit, Norbert Röttgen, a former minister and senior MP for Germany's ruling CDU party, said there could be no extension to the Article 50 process unless the UK offered a concrete reason, such as a public vote.
He also warned Tory leadership candidates against trying to "blackmail" the EU by threatening to leave with no deal unless the Brexit deal is changed.
The Telegraph understands the EU is split on the question of an extension, with...