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Leave the EU, incl sm and cu, and start negotiating our own trade deals incl with the EU. That's a good enough start considering it's only been going for 2 weeks.
Well he did in 2016 and we know that nobody is allowed to change their minds.
Polls show that very few have changed their mind. For those that don't accept that, there's the Chuk party, although it's start has been inauspicious
The Tories should be allying with Nigel Farage on Brexit, not Jeremy Corbyn
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It is a question that needs asking: does Theresa May actually think that Brexit voters are stupid? She is certainly behaving that way, apparently convincing herself that the Eurosceptic electorate will welcome any deal she cooks up with Jeremy Corbyn, however appalling, as long as she labels it “Brexit”.
The nonsensical, insulting implication is that those who want to leave the EU are as thick, uneducated, and prejudiced as their “progressive” opponents love to claim; gullible fools who only care about ending “free movement”. Fobbing off such half-wits should be easy: just sign a deal, any deal that can be spun as delivering on this one symbolic goal, and they will flock back gratefully.
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It is a question that needs asking: does Theresa May actually think that Brexit voters are stupid? She is certainly behaving that way, apparently convincing herself that the Eurosceptic electorate will welcome any deal she cooks up with Jeremy Corbyn, however appalling, as long as she labels it “Brexit”.
The nonsensical, insulting implication is that those who want to leave the EU are as thick, uneducated, and prejudiced as their “progressive” opponents love to claim; gullible fools who only care about ending “free movement”. Fobbing off such half-wits should be easy: just sign a deal, any deal that can be spun as delivering on this one symbolic goal, and they will flock back gratefully.
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Everyone should vote at every opportunity...…
......apart from all those ****ers who say that they will never vote again because the 'will of the people' might be denied over Brexit. I sincerely hope that they stick to their words.
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Why should everyone vote at every opportunity? Is not voting not a democratic choice as well?
I should stress that I didn’t vote because I forgot, not out of any point of principle. I have to say that the local election literature pushed through my door (Lib Dem, and they communicate regularly even when there isn’t a vote; Tory x 2 leaflets, Labour x 1 leaflet) were pretty identical except for the colour. I’m sure all the candidates really do believe that they have the best interests of the local community at heart. I would probably have voted Green or spoilt my ballot paper. I’ll check the results to see if that would have had any impact on the results.
QT is on. Jesus wept. Fiona Bruce is rubbish at running this chaotic shout fest.
I shouldn’t really like this disgraceful descent into gutter politics and mild violence.
But I do.
I think everyone should vote. Make it compulsory but have a 'none of the above' option. With a space for comments.
I haven't watched QT since Brexit. Too much gammon is bad for the heart.
Why would you want the idle, unmotivated, ignorant, anti democratic or forgetful (like me) to be forced to vote? Most will tick a box rather than write a comment if they are forced to turn up. And they will tick a box not caring about the outcome.
They have compulsory voting in Australia. At the 2013 federal election, considering the threat of a non-voting fine of up to $20, there was a turnout of 92%, of whom 6% lodged either informal or blank ballot papers.
Compulsory voting is increasingly resented by citizens in some countries such as Brazil, the largest country where compulsory voting is enforced: at the presidential election in 2014, some 30 million voters, about 21% of registered voters, did not vote, despite the fact that Brazil has some of the most severe penalties enforced against non voters.
I don’t think it’s enforceable. Or especially desirable.
Alright, let's say if you fail to vote on three consecutive occasions, you lose the right entirely. People who can't be arsed to vote don't deserve to have their voices heard.
I'm riffing now.
In Australia if you fail to vote in 4 consecutive elections. You lose the right for ten years. I’m not sure if this includes local and state elections as well as national ones.
I’m pondering staying up until 6.00 tomorrow morning to watch the local council results come in.
Or perhaps not.
Labour not doing great with the early results, down 14% of the vote in Sunderland.
Sunderland voters are rampant Brexiters aren't they?
I love election nights, even local ones.