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Just as I reach retirement age this week, thanks a bundle you ermine robed c*nts...
Nope, you took a decision which you thought was right for your kids, but which had zero evidence to support it, and now you suggest that I should have paid for your choice. Sorry, but no.
let’s see how many of the Extinction Rebellion people get 16 months. Or are even taken to court.
not the same thing though is it? I object to wasting taxpayers money, not paying tax or spending it on services people need.
Ideally any benefit would be means-tested in some way whether for young or old people. It shouldn’t come down to being a divisive issue of taking away old people benefits to subsidise the young. We are still a very wealthy country if resources are allocated efficiently but no Tory government will ever have a reason to get close to this.
Depends if extinction rebellion plan on rebelling in london for another 6 months
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-28/timeline-hong-kong-umbrella-movement-one-year-on/6802388
fairly good summary of what happened.
I had a think about it and you are correct in that it's counter productive and highly incorrect to be putting those leaders in jail.
It's a fine line that everyone treads between protecting state interests, law and order and allowing freedom of expression.
fairly good summary of what happened.
I had a think about it and you are correct in that it's counter productive and highly incorrect to be putting those leaders in jail.
It's a fine line that everyone treads between protecting state interests, law and order and allowing freedom of expression.
not sure what happened there
Why were people worried about it? In 1998, a study published in the respected journal The Lancet raised the possibility that the jab may be linked to autism and bowel disease.
The paper and the media furore that followed prompted many parents to decide against having their children vaccinated with the three-in-one jab.
Some opted to have their children vaccinated using single vaccines for each disease. However, others decided against having their children vaccinated against these diseases at all.
Mumps, measles and rubella are all serious diseases, particularly measles. Many doctors were concerned that a drop in vaccination levels could leave many children at risk.
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what i was suggesting was if there was a possible risk and there was a trusted alternative then parents should have been offered the alternative on the nhs until it was proved that the mmr was safe
i dont think it was debunked until after 2000
surely that has to be better than not having enough of the herd innoculated
Why were people worried about it? In 1998, a study published in the respected journal The Lancet raised the possibility that the jab may be linked to autism and bowel disease.
The paper and the media furore that followed prompted many parents to decide against having their children vaccinated with the three-in-one jab.
Some opted to have their children vaccinated using single vaccines for each disease. However, others decided against having their children vaccinated against these diseases at all.
Mumps, measles and rubella are all serious diseases, particularly measles. Many doctors were concerned that a drop in vaccination levels could leave many children at risk.
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what i was suggesting was if there was a possible risk and there was a trusted alternative then parents should have been offered the alternative on the nhs until it was proved that the mmr was safe
i dont think it was debunked until after 2000
surely that has to be better than not having enough of the herd innoculated
It might be that I have too much basic knowledge (and it is basic, I have no scientific background) to be entirely fair on this. I read all this stuff when it first came out, and immediately thought that the methodology behind the studies (which were later proven to be fraudulent) was ****. You could never get a drug through regulatory approval on the evidence that Wakefield made up. And then he refused to do a controlled study to validate his results, which no one else could replicate. It wasn’t really until good journalism started uncovering all this in 2004 that this **** really began to disintegrate. The Lancet is a complete disgrace, but the BMJ and New England Medical Journal have made massive mistakes in accepting stuff for publication as well.
I read the stuff because my son was born in 1996 and my daughter in 2000. I just thought the evidence was really weak - signs of autism start at around two, just when you get your MMR jab, no causal link established. It’s a coincidence. But it’s unfair of me to expect everyone to reach the same conclusion. If the government was unsure, it should not just have offered 3 separate jabs, it should have called a halt to the triple jab. Of course, all that would have happened is that the poor people with autistic kids who paid Wakefield, people who were following a natural human instinct to find someone or something to blame for their misfortune, would then have turned their attention to the individual jabs. And bastards like Wakefield would have led them on. How he has escaped prison is beyond me, striking off the medical register was too good for him.
So my responses have been intemperate, sorry. But this **** does make my blood boil. And it’s still going on, the Internet is full of misinformation on this topic, including stuff that Wakefield is still churning out. And the 500,000 unvaccinated in the UK are from the 2010- 2016 cohort, the consequences are huge. Measles (I had it as a kid) can be a life changing, and life ending disease. Even if you have had it once in rare cases it can come back and destroy your brain. Excellent suggestion on the radio from a woman whose daughter, who had measles as a kid 40 years ago, got reinfected in her twenties and is now completely disabled - if you refuse vaccination you can’t send your kid to nursery or school.
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And who would rather arse-lick Gerry Adams, Hamas and Hezbollox or in Bercow's case fawn all over the Saudi Leader. Trump's an arsehole but still the leader of one of our longest standing allies, let's hope if Jezza ever becomes PM we don't find ourselves crawling up Putin's arse...
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#Corbyn will not attend a Dinner with the President of the United States, but did attend a banquet with the President of a country which has thousands of political prisoners in labour camps. More #Labour #hypocricy. They should be ashamed of themselves.
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#Corbyn will not attend a Dinner with the President of the United States, but did attend a banquet with the President of a country which has thousands of political prisoners in labour camps. More #Labour #hypocricy. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Stupid wig and can’t spell hypocrisy. Corbyn is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t on this.
With people like you maybe but he could cure the common cold and save a child from a burning building and still get criticised by the people who will condemn this.
It's the office of President of the United States that should be respected imo.
I think Trump is an arse but he is democratically elected and therefore those attending should hold their noses and respect that fact.
Mind you.....there's not a lot of respect around for democracy these days.
i thought his visit was to do with d day commemorations
Boot Prints. An art work to remember the American Soldiers that died assaulting the beaches on D-Day. They shall never be forgotten.
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maybe people should remember them