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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
As it is all the fault of the Remainers, can a Brexiteer explain to me what it is they actually want given that they have voted against May's deal to deliver Brexit three times now?

Personally, I want May’s Brexit solution, plus use of the swivel chair in future negotiations, the automatic bottle-opener that was used at the Christmas party, plus Barnier’s wife’s recipe for ratatouille.
 
Give us your in depth post Brexit plan for the UK
Try contributing with some ideas for a start
Can you read Legalese ?
Have you read the Lisbon 2020 treaty ?
Do have any idea of the plans of the corrupt EU ?
Have you any idea of the damage the EU has done to our manufacturing output by paying firms vast amounts of our own money to move their manufacturing operations to Eastern Europe to provide these regions with jobs, not caring about the devastation this has done to the areas and people involved.
They (the EU) are a bunch of un-elected, failed politicians who in all honesty should not be allowed to run a Bath never mind run a multi trillion euro project.
You keep asking us brexiteers to give you a forward thinking plan, how about you give us YOUR plans for when we leave instead of just calling us idiots, blue sheep etc, etc and sticking to the Remain mantra of doom and gloom which by and large has proved to be just scaremongering, start by naming all these so called “ massive firms” you are helping to move (not including Airbus which I proved you wrong on already and who are in fact investing hundreds of millions in upping production and facilities in Broughton in Chester).
Even your major scaremongerer Mark Carney at the Bank of England now says it won’t be anywhere near as bad as he originally stated.
Can you explain the fact the Pound now gets about 6 cents more in the exchange rate than it did just a few weeks ago and appears to be increasing more as a no deal Brexit is becoming more likely.
Start by answering these, I doubt you can in all honesty !
 
FFS its more than not liking the result and you know it. If it had been handled and implemented better by the Gov it might not be such an issue but the illegalities behind the leave campaign and the pantomime villains at the forefront of it are hard to ignore and make it very difficult to respect. Whether you will admit it or not people were ill-informed, misinformed or willfully ignorant back in June 2016 and we know a damn sight more now. Also the rift it's caused in society and the galvanising of the far right thugs all point to brexit being a really bad idea.

And yet the opinion polls now are virtually identical to those before the referendum.
 
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My tolerance is being stretched by Remain MPs labelling Brexit voters "far right racist bigots" whilst one of their number comes to work in an ankle tag, others have stood down for drug related offences and a Labour Lord is up for *****philia
 
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You don’t do debate, Col. You just rage at anyone who doesn’t have a Union Jack as their Facebook profile pic.

Not raging at all you fool.
You're the one who can't debate.
You resort to childish insults and wind ups whenever the argument is beyond you.
 
FFS its more than not liking the result and you know it. If it had been handled and implemented better by the Gov it might not be such an issue but the illegalities behind the leave campaign and the pantomime villains at the forefront of it are hard to ignore and make it very difficult to respect. Whether you will admit it or not people were ill-informed, misinformed or willfully ignorant back in June 2016 and we know a damn sight more now. Also the rift it's caused in society and the galvanising of the far right thugs all point to brexit being a really bad idea.

Many of us have been saying that, had the useless government handled the negotiations differently from day one, we would have had a deal.
They have been useless, as have virtually all parliamentarians
There were lies on both sides.
 
if this is the chaos caused by one bloke and a flag i cant wait to see what happens if two or three do it

Eurostar is back on track after Brexit protester shut down ALL trains this morning after climbing on to roof of London St Pancras with St George flag for 12 HOURS
  • All Eurostar trains leaving London St Pancras for Paris Gare du Nord were scheduled to be on time tonight
  • Eurostar said they had suspended all services this morning due to 'a person on the tracks' and they cut power
  • A picture circulating online appears to show the 44-year-old culprit being led away by police by the tracks
  • Up to 5,250 people could be affected as seven services were suspended with delays having knock-on effect
  • *Do you know the man draped in the St George flag? If so, email [email protected]*
By Leigh Mcmanus For Mailonline
Published: 19:25 AEDT, 30 March 2019 | Updated: 18:21 AEDT, 31 March 2019
6.6kshares
Eurostar services from London St Pancras were back on track tonight as the majority of trains left the station as planned after midday.
It comes after the high-speed railway service suspended all trains to and from St Pancras this morning because a pro-Brexit protester waving a St George flag climbed on to the roof of a terminal and remained there for 12 hours.
Eurostar said that they had suspended all services due to 'a person on the tracks', having already cancelled services last night because of the the lone-protester.
A 44-year-old man was arrested for obstruction of the railway line as pictures showed him being led off around 7am by police right beside the tracks which had the power cut. As of 11am, trains were running again, although there was still a backlog of thousands of passengers.
But after midday, services began to return to normal, with the 1.31pm train to Paris Gare du Nord being the only departure cancelled in the afternoon, according to Eurostar's website.
A spokesman for Eurostar confirmed tonight that 'the situation had returned to normal'.
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The lone protester caused hours of travel chaos with Eurostar saying: 'We strongly recommend you not travel this morning.'
The company added that travellers can cancel their journey and get a ticket free of charge for a different date despite initially saying that travel would resume at 9:45am.
But some Twitter users stuck in St Pancras claimed that Eurostar informed them that services were suspended right up until the afternoon. Services now seem to be back underway with delays.
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People crowd around the departure gate at St Pancras this morning as police stand by. Thousands of passengers were delayed or were urged not to travel by Eurostar whose website began to crash because of traffic trying to claim refunds
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Platforms at the station were still filled with thousands of passengers this afternoon, as trains tried to deal with the backlog
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Thousands of frustrated passengers crowded into St Pancras following the severe delays caused by the lone Brexit protester
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People crowd staff as they wait due to Eurostar delays at St Pancras Railway Station in London. Delays also affected Paris
One man tweeted a message saying that staff in Paris's Gare du Nord station told him that trains will be cancelled all day.
National Rail tweeted that Eurostar services were due to resume but Southeastern services at London St Pancras International were pushed back until 11 am with disruptions on the international services expected have a knock-on effect until 12.
Pictures from inside the London station show the extent of the crowds and also depict a lone Eurostar staffer crowded by people demanding answers.
The help desk was also pictured empty as people are growing increasingly frustrated with the company.
This morning, a Twitter user wrote: 'Wanna know why St Pancras and all the trains are messed up? The flag waving b***-end is o n top of the high speed tracks.'
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Chaos inside St Pancras this morning. Up to 5,250 people could be affected by the suspension of the railway lines
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International departures at St Pancras was empty as people queued beside it waiting for answers from overwhelmed staff
Southeastern services were also heavily disrupted. The high powered lines had to be shut down due to the risk of electrocution.
Eurostar tweeted in French and English to break the news of cancellations, causing meltdown with some people saying they are now stuck in France and Brussels.
An account called London Traffic Watch also claimed that up to 100 people were waiting outside St Pancras at the taxi rank with cabs unable to make their way in due to 'cars ignoring restrictions into Pancras Rd & large amount of Buses now using the road.'
The error message still facing some customers when they try to re-book trains on the Eurostar website
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People wait for answers due to Eurostar delays at St Pancras Railway Station in London this morning
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National Rail have since tweeted that services have been pushed further back until 11 am, with some trains having left now
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The main concourse at St Pancras this morning was wedged full of people as delays hit hard because of the lone-protester
One person affected, Ruth Etherington tweeted calling the apparent protester Mr Brexiteer. She said: 'Big love Eurostar and Mr Brexiteer - you've ruined my birthday and the rest of my life #revokearticle50'
A person stuck on the French side of the chaos said that 'I guess I will have to swim when I go to England now.'
Services to Brussels were also heavily affected. A total of two trains leaving London have been suspended according to an email sent to customers, with three leaving Paris and two leaving Brussels also suspended.
This means that up to 5,250 people could have been affected as there is a capacity of around 750 per train.
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Molly Scott Cato, Member of the European Parliament stuck in Brussels, also tweeted about the irony of the situation
 
Can you read Legalese ?
Have you read the Lisbon 2020 treaty ?
Do have any idea of the plans of the corrupt EU ?
Have you any idea of the damage the EU has done to our manufacturing output by paying firms vast amounts of our own money to move their manufacturing operations to Eastern Europe to provide these regions with jobs, not caring about the devastation this has done to the areas and people involved.
They (the EU) are a bunch of un-elected, failed politicians who in all honesty should not be allowed to run a Bath never mind run a multi trillion euro project.
You keep asking us brexiteers to give you a forward thinking plan, how about you give us YOUR plans for when we leave instead of just calling us idiots, blue sheep etc, etc and sticking to the Remain mantra of doom and gloom which by and large has proved to be just scaremongering, start by naming all these so called “ massive firms” you are helping to move (not including Airbus which I proved you wrong on already and who are in fact investing hundreds of millions in upping production and facilities in Broughton in Chester).
Even your major scaremongerer Mark Carney at the Bank of England now says it won’t be anywhere near as bad as he originally stated.
Can you explain the fact the Pound now gets about 6 cents more in the exchange rate than it did just a few weeks ago and appears to be increasing more as a no deal Brexit is becoming more likely.
Start by answering these, I doubt you can in all honesty !

Bit selective on the timeframe there.
 
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I saw a thing before, which I think was aimed at Republicans but along the same theme of the Tories being people on £500 an hour convincing people on £25 an hour that they’re wealthy enough to see people on £8 an hour as the problem.
 
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But apart from the protectionism, the over-regulation, the bureaucracy, the inflated prices, the ever closer union, the £13 billion a year, the corporatism, the lack of accountability, the democratic deficit and the meme ban, why do you want to leave the EU?
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