Off Topic The Politics Thread

[DT’s Socks]

Personally I would love to see a system whereupon if UK people desired they have the option to travel with freedom in the EU

Any old goats or mutton who want to stand still and wave a Union Jack is fine by me. If they want to believe that the U.K. is absolutely amazing at everything etc ... Carry on Matron! If Johnny Foreigners and the WW2 bullshit is what they still cling to then it’s their right so carry on and keep moaning

The truth is it’s 2019 for business and the next generations
The South will always be different than the North so divides will always be there
The nation will only come together when England wins a major senior football tournament... and they will but that’s the limit on uniformity imo

London will remain the best city in the world regardless... loved by the remainers and frowned upon by the rest ... it’s wrong but it’s fact and because of the strong multiculturalism it won’t do anything but get stronger in any circumstance imo

Dog eat dog sadly that’s know I see it

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

We're there already. If you haven't been caught yet you will be soon unless you are lucky enough not to have a smart motorway near you. I got done almost 3 years ago on an empty M1 travelling South near Nottingham at 62 mph keeping pace and a very healthy distance behind the vehicle in front in the middle lane. no danger to anybody as we were all behaving ourselves in a responsible way including a GP who now lives in my village. She was doing 61. The reason being that the variable speed limit was 60 at that time. They must have been coining it at the time.

Yes, absolutely, I've been done on a smart motorway. I had kept carefully to the speed limit on the M25 and go caught slightly over 60 on the slip road coming off. The police make money and it's a way to get people to pay for their continuing Road Traffic education. It makes people cynical. When I went from my course, the AA instructor said we may be able to finish early, did anyone object? He said that had had to ask because once, someone had complained that he wanted the full 4 hours so that he go his money's worth!

 

[DT’s Socks]

Great post, Uber

He’s always at it that Mr Uber

 

[Turkish" Premier" Hoops]

Yawn,yawn and yawn, does it never stop with its mindless Euro crap

Does it not understand I am not a gammon, a goat,a blue sheep nor am I mutton or old, I am just an Englishman who does not wish to be ruled by a bunch of self serving un elected ( failed in their own country as politicians) Eurocrats.
I live in England In the United Kingdom of Great Britain I do not wish to live in a state without identity in a United States of Europe, when will it understand we aren’t leaving Europe we are just leaving the corrupt EU, or is it because it is scared it won’t be able to buy French cheese and wine or it won’t be allowed to own or conduct a business there or maybe it’s scared it will lose its many homes in France or maybe it just isn’t as clever or smart as it thinks it is and it has fallen for “project fear”, I don’t know and frankly I don’t care about it, to me, he / it is an entity without substance, a europhile willing to give up its identity because it’s been told it must because like most robots it just obeys instructions and follows the blind herd.
Well not me, I thought about it, discussed it with many people smarter and more qualified than it

 

[DT’s Socks]

Yawn,yawn and yawn, does it never stop with its mindless Euro crap

Does it not understand I am not a gammon, a goat,a blue sheep nor am I mutton or old, I am just an Englishman who does not wish to be ruled by a bunch of self serving un elected ( failed in their own country as politicians) Eurocrats.
I live in England In the United Kingdom of Great Britain I do not wish to live in a state without identity in a United States of Europe, when will it understand we aren’t leaving Europe we are just leaving the corrupt EU, or is it because it is scared it won’t be able to buy French cheese and wine or it won’t be allowed to own or conduct a business there or maybe it’s scared it will lose its many homes in France or maybe it just isn’t as clever or smart as it thinks it is and it has fallen for “project fear”, I don’t know and frankly I don’t care about it, to me, he / it is an entity without substance, a europhile willing to give up its identity because it’s been told it must because like most robots it just obeys instructions and follows the blind herd.
Well not me, I thought about it, discussed it with many people smarter and more qualified than it

No problem with your opinion whatsoever however I make my own decisions and will never lose my identity I am English with options

Proud also to have and hold some useful qualifications

Can’t see your point really apart from another personal attack. Let’s be clear I sincerely dislike you in a equal amount but that’s about it so why say anymore? It’s not a problem

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Arron Banks on JRM's U-turn

"He said we would be a vassal state, a slave state, and that it would mean the annexation of Northern Ireland - and now he says half a loaf is better than no loaf. It's terrible!"

 

[sb_73]

Johnson also caving, with the obvious motivation of positioning himself to take over once May has the Withdrawal Agreement through. Unless his young girlfriend has done a character makeover on him as well as a physical one, I don’t think he’ll get to the final two, many Tory MPs distrust and dislike him, with reason.

Corbyn apparently whipping Labour MPs to vote for a referendum on whatever proposal comes out of this process. Of course this would absolve him of any personal responsibility for the type of deal we end up with, which is just what he wants. Also another nail in the coffin of representative democracy, in favour of something even worse.

Aaron Banks on JRM's U-turn

"He said we would be a vassal state, a slave state, and that it would mean the annexation of Northern Ireland - and now he says half a loaf is better than no loaf. It's terrible!"

Arron Banks? How much did Putin pay him to say that? Steve Bannon’s glove puppet.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Johnson also caving, with the obvious motivation of positioning himself to take over once May has the Withdrawal Agreement through. Unless his young girlfriend has done a character makeover on him as well as a physical one, I don’t think he’ll get to the final two, many Tory MPs distrust and dislike him, with reason.

Corbyn apparently whipping Labour MPs to vote for a referendum on whatever proposal comes out of this process. Of course this would absolve him of any personal responsibility for the type of deal we end up with, which is just what he wants. Also another nail in the coffin of representative democracy, in favour of something even worse.


Arron Banks? How much did Putin pay him to say that? Steve Bannon’s glove puppet.

Careful, all these Russian influence allegations seem to be disappearing into the mist!

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

Careful, all these Russian influence allegations seem to be disappearing into the mist!

That's only because Trump in his own words is a 'smart person' who knows how to lie through his teeth and cajole/bribe those around him to lie for him. Is Aaron Banks that smart? No I didn't think so. JRM is so if I were you I'd listen to what he is now saying.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Labour MPs are being whipped to support the Beckett/Kyle/Wilson indicative vote motion that promotes Brexit referendum

So much for a free vote from Marxist Corbyn

Government is giving a free vote

 

[QPR Oslo]

May saying she'll resign to win more support for her deal, nauseating.

 

[Stroller]

Labour MPs are being whipped to support the Beckett/Kyle/Wilson indicative vote motion that promotes Brexit referendum

So much for a free vote from Marxist Corbyn

Government is giving a free vote

They can vote for multiple options can't they? So presumably Labour MPs will be free to vote for whatever other options they choose, so long as they also vote for the one that includes the referendum that party conference dictated should be Labour policy. This afternoon the Tories were whipped to vote against the indicative votes even happening at all, and May has only agreed to free votes this evening to avoid another raft of resignations.

 

[Turkish" Premier" Hoops]

No problem with your opinion whatsoever however I make my own decisions and will never lose my identity I am English with options

Proud also to have and hold some useful qualifications

Can’t see your point really apart from another personal attack. Let’s be clear I sincerely dislike you in a equal amount but that’s about it so why say anymore? It’s not a problem

And I sincerely dislike you, the fact you belittle people, call them names because they don’t agree with you, you rubbish people’s opinions and you are too boot an odious arrogant nasty person, but as you say that’s my opinion and it won’t change and that is no problem either.

 

[cor blymie]

whatever the outcome of this total farce, the damage has been done. You only have to witness the vitriol on both sides of the arguement on here to see that. It is going to get worse, a lot worse

 

[kiwiqpr]

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Appeal to EP: You should be open to a long extension, if the UK wishes to rethink its strategy. 6 million people signed the petition, 1 million marched. They may not feel sufficiently represented by UK Parliament but they must feel represented by you. Because they are Europeans.

 

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Donald TuskVerified account@eucopresident
Appeal to EP: You should be open to a long extension, if the UK wishes to rethink its strategy. 6 million people signed the petition, 1 million marched. They may not feel sufficiently represented by UK Parliament but they must feel represented by you. Because they are Europeans.

Unaccountable and unashamed, the gravy train rolls on and over all opposition...

 

[qprbeth]

So Maggie May resigns...( She was elected/supported by a general election)...and we will be taken in to the next stage by someone elected by Tory's/ERG alone.

People like Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees mogg...now back her deal..

This stinks to high heaven..and beyond...

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[sb_73]

Born again Christian, advocate of a return to the gold standard (seriously) and former ‘chief architect’ of ‘global financing’ at Lehman Brothers (until it went bankrupt in 2008, when he lost his job), Steve Baker, deputy chair of the ERG, has had a little meltdown in front of his colleagues, saying that he wants to ‘bulldoze’ the Houses of Parliament into the river. Presumably because he didn’t get his own way.

Perhaps he should stand for the DUP at the next election.

 

[DT’s Socks]

Bollocks to dignity Mrs May you were a failure

I must say however she has acted brilliantly to the script I believe is unfolding