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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Wish we had Trump doing the negotiations with the EU. He said he is always willing to walk away from a bad deal! :1980_boogie_down: We got a remoaner negotiating. <doh>

Now now no way to speak of your dinner date or your party ... you put them there ?

I think adjustment is in order on the phrase moaning ... you have been at it for two years

The Selfish Disgruntled Old Farts
 
Now the ERG is splitting, as Rees Mogg says he doesn’t need the legal text of the Withdrawal Agreement to be changed re the backstop, he’ll be happy with some kind of appendix promising it won’t be permanent. Some of his pals disagree.

Perhaps May will get her deal through as terror of a delay sets in.
 
dopey cow

Woman Charged With Attacking Falmouth Man Wearing MAGA Hat Taken Into ICE Custody

February 26, 2019 at 5:23 pm
Filed Under:Falmouth, Make America Great Again, President Trump
FALMOUTH (CBS) – The woman who was charged with confronting a man wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat inside a Falmouth Mexican restaurant was taken into custody by ICE. The department said she was in the country illegally.
Police said Rosiane Santos walked by Bryton Turner as he was eating dinner at Casa Vallarta and knocked the hat off his head. She then allegedly confronted him verbally.
Turner recorded video showing some of the confrontation.
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Rosiane Santos is accused of assaulting a man who was wearing a Make America Great Again hat at a Falmouth restaurant (Image credit: Bryton Turner)
Falmouth Police charged Santos with disorderly conduct following the incident earlier this month. On Tuesday, ICE took her into custody.
“Deportation officers with ICE’s Fugitive Operations Team arrested Rosiane Santos, an unlawfully present citizen of Brazil, today near Falmouth, Massachusetts,” said ICE spokesman John Mohan.
Turner said he was just trying to eat a nice meal when Santos grabbed his hat supporting President Trump.
“It’s just a hat at the end of the day,” Turner told WBZ after the incident. “I don’t really understand why people can’t just express themselves anymore, everybody has to get mad.”
Santos was later released from ICE custody. She has been ordered to appear before an immigration judge for removal proceedings.
“I don’t ever want to assume people are illegal because I don’t think that’s fair to a lot of good citizens,” Turner said Tuesday. “It’s good that they got her.”
 
Migrants are phoning police to collect them from Channel boats
Richard Ford, Home Correspondent
February 27 2019, 12:00am, The Times
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A Border Force vessel arrives at Dover with migrants yesterdayPA
Illegal migrants are ringing police to collect them from boats in the Channel because they are so sure of avoiding being returned to their countries, MPs have been told.
It is part of a shift in the “business model” of organised criminals, with the emphasis now on people seeking out the authorities rather than being met at departure points and smuggled into the country undetected.
Steve Rodhouse, director-general of operations at the National Crime Agency, said that about 40 per cent of those who arrived had paid an average of £5,000 each to “facilitators” who often started arranging the journey to Europe in Iran.
His comments came as 13 migrants, including two children and a baby, were found yesterday on a small vessel. They were…
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Former EU President Herman van Rompuy: “...with their backs against the wall, the abyss in front of their eyes and a knife on their throat. We are nearly there.
If some time is needed after the end of March then that will not be a problem for the 27.”
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Exclusive: a shooting range in Wallasey defends using images of Shamima Begum as target practice because of a ‘record number of requests’ from its customers. It allows people ‘to have some light-hearted fun bringing out the inner child in all” they tell us. More at 10am
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Just listened to Dominic Raab being interviewed on the radio. Would have been funny if it wasn’t so sad and pathetic. He played the victim card first off, whining on about how the EU have bullied us throughout the negotiations, then moaned on about his own government’s ‘scaremongering’, before denying that Rees Mogg has changed his line on the backstop (although Rees Mogg says Rees Mogg has changed his line on the backstop).

This was the long Today programme interview, during which he came up with exactly zero positive ideas about how to resolve this, which probably explains his brief and pointless stint as Brexit Secretary, which ended with a little flounce out, after admitting that he had no idea how much trade actually goes through Dover. What happened to the great British characteristics - stiff upper lip, mustn’t grumble, worse things happen at sea?

This (from a 2012 book) is what he thinks of the British
“Once they enter the workplace, the British are among the worst idlers in the world. (…) Too many people in Britain prefer a lie-in to hard work.”
He also thinks that men are discriminated against more than women, people who use food banks just have ‘temporary cash flow problems’, spending more on health and education is ‘a childish wish list’

He also backs a second referendum
“I think the sensible thing, if it's very close, within a couple of points, would be to take pause, respect the verdict of the British people and effectively shelve this debate until that point (a second referendum) which I hope is going to be as close to the 2020 election as possible.”
Dominic Raab, 9 June 2016

Striking stuff. £ still well up, currency traders obviously think a deal is likely. Shame I don’t trust them.

Elsewhere David Lammy making a bit of a tit of himself about Comic Relief.
 
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Just listened to Dominic Raab being interviewed on the radio. Would have been funny if it wasn’t so sad and pathetic. He played the victim card first off, whining on about how the EU have bullied us throughout the negotiations, then moaned on about his own government’s ‘scaremongering’, before denying that Rees Mogg has changed his line on the backstop (although Rees Mogg says Rees Mogg has changed his line on the backstop).

This was the long Today programme interview, during which he came up with exactly zero positive ideas about how to resolve this, which probably explains his brief and pointless stint as Brexit Secretary, which ended with a little flounce out, after admitting that he had no idea how much trade actually goes through Dover. What happened to the great British characteristics - stiff upper lip, mustn’t grumble, worse things happen at sea?

This (from a 2012 book) is what he thinks of the British
“Once they enter the workplace, the British are among the worst idlers in the world. (…) Too many people in Britain prefer a lie-in to hard work.”
He also thinks that men are discriminated against more than women, people who use food banks just have ‘temporary cash flow problems’, spending more on health and education is ‘a childish wish list’

He also backs a second referendum
“I think the sensible thing, if it's very close, within a couple of points, would be to take pause, respect the verdict of the British people and effectively shelve this debate until that point (a second referendum) which I hope is going to be as close to the 2020 election as possible.”
Dominic Raab, 9 June 2016

Striking stuff. £ still well up, currency traders obviously think a deal is likely. Shame I don’t trust them.

Elsewhere David Lammy making a bit of a tit of himself about Comic Relief.

David lammy is a proper tit picking a fight with dooley
 
Just listened to Dominic Raab being interviewed on the radio. Would have been funny if it wasn’t so sad and pathetic. He played the victim card first off, whining on about how the EU have bullied us throughout the negotiations, then moaned on about his own government’s ‘scaremongering’, before denying that Rees Mogg has changed his line on the backstop (although Rees Mogg says Rees Mogg has changed his line on the backstop).

This was the long Today programme interview, during which he came up with exactly zero positive ideas about how to resolve this, which probably explains his brief and pointless stint as Brexit Secretary, which ended with a little flounce out, after admitting that he had no idea how much trade actually goes through Dover. What happened to the great British characteristics - stiff upper lip, mustn’t grumble, worse things happen at sea?

This (from a 2012 book) is what he thinks of the British
“Once they enter the workplace, the British are among the worst idlers in the world. (…) Too many people in Britain prefer a lie-in to hard work.”
He also thinks that men are discriminated against more than women, people who use food banks just have ‘temporary cash flow problems’, spending more on health and education is ‘a childish wish list’

He also backs a second referendum
“I think the sensible thing, if it's very close, within a couple of points, would be to take pause, respect the verdict of the British people and effectively shelve this debate until that point (a second referendum) which I hope is going to be as close to the 2020 election as possible.”
Dominic Raab, 9 June 2016

Striking stuff. £ still well up, currency traders obviously think a deal is likely. Shame I don’t trust them.

Elsewhere David Lammy making a bit of a tit of himself about Comic Relief.

Problem is the next Comic Relief will almost certainly suffer a massive drop in donations as many people will think 'why bother?' Also celebrities will be less likely to participate due to the comments being made.

Lammy would have been far better received had he directly contacted the organisers with his concerns and put forward positive suggestions, used his contacts to bring in more Afro-carribean participants and actually took time out to visit some of the projects instead of playing a snide race-card for negative publicity. An object lesson in how to shoot yourself in the foot...
 
Problem is the next Comic Relief will almost certainly suffer a massive drop in donations as many people will think 'why bother?' Also celebrities will be less likely to participate due to the comments being made.

Lammy would have been far better received had he directly contacted the organisers with his concerns and put forward positive suggestions, used his contacts to bring in more Afro-carribean participants and actually took time out to visit some of the projects instead of playing a snide race-card for negative publicity. An object lesson in how to shoot yourself in the foot...
Apparently he has been asked if he would like to get involved (before the current incident) and never responded.

I suspect the publicity will help Comic Relief, because everyone loves Dooley.

A bunch of comics climbing Kilimanjaro at the moment, but the film accompanying their reports, which was about the results of Comic Relief spending, was of course fronted by Lenny Henry.
 
Problem is the next Comic Relief will almost certainly suffer a massive drop in donations as many people will think 'why bother?' Also celebrities will be less likely to participate due to the comments being made.

Lammy would have been far better received had he directly contacted the organisers with his concerns and put forward positive suggestions, used his contacts to bring in more Afro-carribean participants and actually took time out to visit some of the projects instead of playing a snide race-card for negative publicity. An object lesson in how to shoot yourself in the foot...

Lammy is such an egotist, he doesn't like seeing white people helping black kids in Africa because the thinks it reflects badly on him. He's saying, "on behalf of those poor kids, I reject your billions of pounds for schools and hospitals - me and those kids don't need you patronising money." He's a big mouthed, Idi Amin replica, fatcat MP, who couldn't give a **** that this type of charity work in African countries helps to give children a good start in life.