Off Topic The Politics Thread

[DT’s Socks]

Ok, so you're saying the vice-CEO of Honda was lying. Why would he do that? As to gateway to Europe, you don't know what the arrangements will be and neither does Honda. Why didn't Honda wait to learn of Brexit deal or managed no deal, before making an announcement?

Maybe lost faith in where the U.K. is heading ?
Yes I do fully believe the press release is a bag of sound bites and Yes by stating Brexit as a reason would definitely damage the brand
No motor manufacturers can afford to risk any slim market share
Honda just 14 months ago was asking for government assurance re it’s position. Long terms plans work in advance in any major business

Of course this was planned and anyone who sucks this up as a surprise to everyone is one very dim sheep imo

I fully believe that Honda will relocate in the future but from inside the EU

I fully believe that this will be the start of a mass exodus especially in manufacturing

Each time you will witness a carefully crafted press release ... even second, third press releases will of been rehearsed and primed depending on the outcome of the previous. The public in the U.K. forget any news in about 2 days such is the self obsession of it

No conspiracy theory just standard practice

No one talking about Nissan much today ?

The facts are two major blows have been published in a manner that protects an initial response. On a business front it remains that post Brexit things look very tough and Brexiteers will have to come to terms with these facts as they stack up imo

 

[Stroller]

There will be more that go, I think. Boles, Lee, Rudd, Grieve etc. If they go, we must surely be headed for a General Election later in the year, which will mean a new Tory leadership contest before that. Bloody hell, a lot to get through... But if there was a GE, these rebel MP's may well lose their seats

It'll be interesting to see if and when this group comes up with some kind of manifesto, exactly what they stand for. At the moment it seems to be an anti-Brexit, pro-Israel group, but they're going to need more than that.

 

[DT’s Socks]

Addictive TV and news is it not ?

At what point will you consider the future of our country ?

Commentary is kids stuff

I suggest you put your resources into thinking about a post Brexit plan

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

It'll be interesting to see if and when this group comes up with some kind of manifesto, exactly what they stand for. At the moment it seems to be an anti-Brexit, pro-Israel group, but they're going to need more than that.

The best hope for the rebels is a delay to a GE so they can form a party, fund it, elect a leader and write a manifesto. They're a long way off this at the moment.

 

[DT’s Socks]

It'll be interesting to see if and when this group comes up with some kind of manifesto, exactly what they stand for. At the moment it seems to be an anti-Brexit, pro-Israel group, but they're going to need more than that.

Well that’s a 50% start for the nation at least no other party currently has a clue
Any pro Israel party I hope will fail

 

[ELLERS]

The problem may be that the Tory Remainers may use this as leverage against May, threatening to leave too unless we have Brino

I can see a night of the long knives from both Tory and Labour.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

On a business front it remains that post Brexit things look very tough and Brexiteers will have to come to terms with these facts as they stack up imo

But no one knows what the terms will be. Even a managed no deal may involve zero tariffs because the EU want to continue to sell to us

 

[ELLERS]

The best hope for the rebels is a delay to a GE so they can form a party, fund it, elect a leader and write a manifesto. They're a long way off this at the moment.

Agree at the moment they are just a rebel group. Bloke on Sky said mad Anna will vote on Tory things, just not Brexit so there may also be conflict at some point. Saying that I see the odds for a GE have gone up so they may not get a chance to disagree.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

I can see a night of the long knives from both Tory and Labour.

Yes, and I think May has to call the Tory Remainers bluff. Does Amber Rudd really want to give up her ministerial position to take up a temporary seat next to Chuka Umunna? Those Tories like Boles who are facing deselection by their local party will go because they don't have an alternative

 

[DT’s Socks]

3 Tories leave the party including mad Anna to join the splinter group!
Bring on a GE!

Agree then you feel the real force of the pro Europeans. You will see backing and money to kill off any Brexit idea and the EU can then be reformed with their tails between their legs

Yep you did your job at a protest thank you now you can evaporate

 

[ELLERS]

Yes, and I think May has to call the Tory Remainers bluff. Does Amber Rudd really want to give up her ministerial position to take up a temporary seat next to Chuka Umunna? Those Tories like Boles who are facing deselection by their local party will go because they don't have an alternative

Agree they are just a modern SDP and you wouldn't want to give up a cabinet position to sit with Chukka.

 

[DT’s Socks]

Aerospace issues and stories ?

Easy have a look and study the facts about Toulouse... I can only point you the way

To save time I wish to tell myself I am a arrogant **** ... but I am right about Toulouse

 

[DT’s Socks]

Agree they are just a modern SDP and you wouldn't want to give up a cabinet position to sit with Chukka.

Compared to the arseholes in the Tory party ?
They can’t keep a cabinet together for a week

 

[DT’s Socks]

Well it’s something new at least
Let’s all hope the Tory old guard dies off forever and any new ideas for the next generations are looked at .

Anyone who voted for this Tory bunch carried no kudos imo nor should they be allowed to speak out with facing justified criticism and of course mockery. Nasty Tory Corruption has killed the U.K. so I welcome any new political force apart from any UKIP style Anglo Saxon morons ... they need wiping out as does the antique culture of the Anglo Saxon idiot

 

[Turkish" Premier" Hoops]

Somebody is always talking s**t, it’s only the depth and the lying stench that is different,
Claims my posts are not read, but almost instantly comes up with more bollox re my post, but will not be honest,
Paid EU stooge and just like it’s beloved EU dictatorship spouts more un true scaremongering ****e.
Maybe it will be on one of the aeroplanes that falls out the sky on the 29th of March at 11-00pm, who knows !!

 

[ELLERS]

When shall we three meet again
In thunder, lightning, or in rain?

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[DT’s Socks]

But no one knows what the terms will be. Even a managed no deal may involve zero tariffs because the EU want to continue to sell to us

Not the point but agree
We have voted to be outside the EU and that impact us as well as the EU
The difference is businesses are looking to back the EU can’t understand why people cannot see that yet? Too wrapped up in our own mess of politics imo ... that won’t pay the bills lads

 

[ELLERS]

Soubry: "This country does not need a General Election, it needs a peoples vote"
You could not make this up!

 

[DT’s Socks]

Soubry: "This country does not need a General Election, it needs a peoples vote"
You could not make this up!

Well it’s factual it seems that quote so no need to make it up or even challenge if anyone could!

The U.K. right to the end will attempt to keep its options open re Europe ... it’s poker nothing more

I just met Prince Charles at Luton Airport and he has welcomed my invitation to stay with my family in Girona this weekend ... which was nice

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

It'll be interesting to see if and when this group comes up with some kind of manifesto, exactly what they stand for. At the moment it seems to be an anti-Brexit, pro-Israel group, but they're going to need more than that.

Why do you say pro-Israel as opposed to against anti-Semitism? This is a genuine question. I may have missed something said by one of the leavers.