Off Topic The Politics Thread

[ELLERS]

God May is so deluded! As Farage says we have compromised and given them loads in this deal including the money. The one time she wants something in return....Non?
I hope when she returns they force her out and we get a tough brexitier PM running this 2222 show.

 

[DT’s Socks]

May doing well if you can see through it all imo

 

[ELLERS]

Interesting to see that the '3 M's', May, Macron and Merkel are all very much on their way out and vilified by their own people. Out of touch usually means out of office...

Agree all three have monumentally cocked up and all three will be gone in the near future.
I am sure they will be replaced by more clone Euro freaks.

 

[rangercol]

Sorry you felt that way, Staines. I'm just a bit fed up with easy playground replies coming back in reply to any attempt to try and genuinely communicate with those sitting on the other side of the Brexit divide. I'm not totally innocent of that, either. One mans humorous reply is something another man is insulted by (or pretends to be just to win on the internet).

You say "sorry", yet still come across as believing yourself to be on a higher intellectual level than most on here, which you may well be. However, why the need to patronise?
This condescending approach towards people who voted leave just adds to all the division in my opinion.

 

[rangercol]

So Dimbleby signs off from QT with a snide dig at a Tory politician.
Why change the habit of the last 25 years eh?
Good riddance.

 

[DT’s Socks]

€7 visa announced to help out the remainers
Clever timing that and essential as a lot of people will be moving away from the UK in the next ten years
Good solution even if that’s each way ... live with that €150 a year for me ... it will cost me three times that to park my car outside my London home
Right I am property searching before house prices sore especially in France

Yes great news

 

[ELLERS]

Sit down, matey. I agree with this paragraph. Got any ideas about how we'd change things?

Yes, I would like to see more people starting up small farms and holdings. I see we have record number of new Micro breweries… which is good for some. I would also like to see the government actually spend more money on new businesses that will benefit the local communities.

We lost all of our industry with various governments and we need to start replacing them. I don’t expect us to start mining for coal but with renewable energies is a good start. Saying that we actually lead the way in that department but we are still behind with other countries volume.

We lead the way in many areas and I would like to see more money invested in those areas. Overseas investors will always back a good idea and this country has a knack of producing fantastic inovators. Sadly in the past we have lost a lot of good people to other countries. A good example was when I was visiting a reletive in an Australian hospital and every other doctor/Nurse was from the UK. That must stop if we are to move forward.

As an independent country we need to be able to defend ourselves better so I would like to see the contracts for the new ships distributed fairly around the country.

Brexit is a wake up call for this country in that, for many years we have neglected the country and relied on others. As proven yesterday in Brussels when you need something people will let you down.

 

[Stroller]

Leave voters are so touchy aren't they?

 

[DT’s Socks]

Good news all round today
Brexiteers get to rebuild England good luck with that as government will never support agriculture in the same way as the EU does ... Never!

I am from a strong line of farming so of course understand it well enough to know it will be very hard ... the UK will need to train and start again but will never compete with the Europeans... never

Walnuts and fishing holidays

The EU stands to make billions now

Fantastic day

 

[TheBigDipper]

You say "sorry", yet still come across as believing yourself to be on a higher intellectual level than most on here, which you may well be. However, why the need to patronise?
This condescending approach towards people who voted leave just adds to all the division in my opinion.

Are you called Staines? I wasn't saying sorry to you. You're one of the people who give 10 second playground answers to points you just don't have the ammo to debate properly. That's not being condescending or patronising, by the way, so don't hide behind the fake outrage that I'm sure will come my way in response.

I've never been condescending or patronising to anyone here. With the quality of some of the responses I get, I don't need to.

Stop searching for "the enemy within" and blaming everyone else for not solving your own problems. The answer lies within you.

 

[ELLERS]

So according to the news
May went into the meeting last night and her hour speech was repeatedly interrupted. Apparently she said she was unprofessional and unprepared? Even Merkel said “what do you want”? May also used the phrase “Brexit means Brexit” which went down well.
Surely the cabinet will ask her to step down when she returns.

 

[Stroller]

A study by the charity Crisis shows that 24,000 people face sleeping rough in the UK this Christmas (up 120% in 5 years), and the government's own figures show that at the end of June there were 82,310 families (including 123,630 children) in temporary accommodation. In the fifth biggest economy in the world? What a ****ing disgrace! So what do we focus all of our attention on? - whether we should make ourselves a bit poorer or a hell of a lot poorer outside the EU. Shame on this disgusting government.

 

[ELLERS]

The EU is shooting themselves in the foot.
All these EU members that are knocking us and our MP’s is not going down too well.
They were saying on the radio that many remainers don’t like they way we are being treated and would not vote the same way again.

Keep it up Eurofreaks!

 

[rangercol]

Are you called Staines? I wasn't saying sorry to you. You're one of the people who give 10 second playground answers to points you just don't have the ammo to debate properly. That's not being condescending or patronising, by the way, so don't hide behind the fake outrage that I'm sure will come my way in response.

I've never been condescending or patronising to anyone here. With the quality of some of the responses I get, I don't need to.

Stop searching for "the enemy within" and blaming everyone else for not solving your own problems. The answer lies within you.[/QUOTE)

So unless a comment is aimed at one specifically, one cannot make a comment?

It's always the same with people like you.
You sneeringly accuse me of 10 second answers, completely ignoring the pages and pages of reasoned argument from me on this thread.
You think you know better and judge others without even listening to what they have to say.
You have been condescending on this thread since 17.4 million people disturbed your smug, liberal life by having the audacity to vote against your wishes.
You're so patronising that you find it impossible to recognise it in your responses, so sure are you that you're completely right and that the great unwashed have been thick and need re-educating.
Who exactly am I blaming for "solving my own problems"? What are these problems exactly?
As for an enemy within, the civil service have clearly briefed against Brexit from day one and the ruling elite have never had the slightest intention of honouring the result of the referendum.
There we go......
Back around in circles again.
As Staines says.....there's no point!

 

[rangercol]

Bloody useless site!!

 

[rangercol]

A study by the charity Crisis shows that 24,000 people face sleeping rough in the UK this Christmas (up 120% in 5 years), and the government's own figures show that at the end of June there were 82,310 families (including 123,630 children) in temporary accommodation. In the fifth biggest economy in the world? What a ****ing disgrace! So what do we focus all of our attention on? - whether we should make ourselves a bit poorer or a hell of a lot poorer outside the EU. Shame on this disgusting government.

Completely agree about the government's record on social matters etc.

 

[rangercol]

Are you called Staines? I wasn't saying sorry to you. You're one of the people who give 10 second playground answers to points you just don't have the ammo to debate properly. That's not being condescending or patronising, by the way, so don't hide behind the fake outrage that I'm sure will come my way in response.

I've never been condescending or patronising to anyone here. With the quality of some of the responses I get, I don't need to.

Stop searching for "the enemy within" and blaming everyone else for not solving your own problems. The answer lies within you.

Just in case you missed my response, due to this site being so clunky:


So unless a comment is aimed at one specifically, one cannot make a comment?

It's always the same with people like you.
You sneeringly accuse me of 10 second answers, completely ignoring the pages and pages of reasoned argument from me on this thread.
You think you know better and judge others without even listening to what they have to say.
You have been condescending on this thread since 17.4 million people disturbed your smug, liberal life by having the audacity to vote against your wishes.
You're so patronising that you find it impossible to recognise it in your responses, so sure are you that you're completely right and that the great unwashed have been thick and need re-educating.
Who exactly am I blaming for "solving my own problems"? What are these problems exactly?
As for an enemy within, the civil service have clearly briefed against Brexit from day one and the ruling elite have never had the slightest intention of honouring the result of the referendum.
There we go......
Back around in circles again.
As Staines says.....there's no point!

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

The EU is shooting themselves in the foot.
All these EU members that are knocking us and our MP’s is not going down too well.
They were saying on the radio that many remainers don’t like they way we are being treated and would not vote the same way again.

Keep it up Eurofreaks!

I'm still hopeful that the Cabinet will decide over the weekend that May has to go. We need a strong prime minister who believes in Brexit to take us through a managed No Deal. There's no alternative. We keep £39bn or much of it (some can be used for the social issues Stroller refers to) and start negotiating trade agreements worldwide. That war criminal, ex-Labour prime minister, Tony Blair, who owns 40 plus properties in the UK (how many house the homeless?), wants to wave the white flag and go back to the ****s in Brussels with our tails between our legs. That's not what this nation is about, but he and Alistair Campbell have never understood that.

 

[Stroller]

The EU is shooting themselves in the foot.
All these EU members that are knocking us and our MP’s is not going down too well.
They were saying on the radio that many remainers don’t like they way we are being treated and would not vote the same way again.

Keep it up Eurofreaks!

What difference does it make? We're not going to have another vote are we?

 

[ELLERS]

What difference does it make? We're not going to have another vote are we?

Stroller if you had asked me that a week ago I would have said no chance but this thing changes from day to day.

Although I think there would not be one (my view) due to the complications around it. After the Grieve amendment that it would probably rule out No deal (due to MP's that wouldn't support it) who knows!

Saying that if this deal gets rejected we must leave in March. MP's can vote to extend but its up the government what happens. Can you imagine the Tories extending it? They would be hammered at the next election.

Personally I would agree with Goldie on this. Get rid of May... Sort a free trade deal or keep some of the money. Once out start building bridges with our own people and you probably find once we leave, the EU will be changing drastically.

The EU has many problems, so much so that they think losing their biggest net contributor is not top of their list? read between the lines.

PS... I also think it's disgusting that people are homeless and on the poverty line. This has not been an overnight issue