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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
ELLERS said:
bob for all your niceties, you are just a remoaner. What is sad is the comments you say about how people play politics and you seem believe it is okay. The difference between me and a lot of people is, if remain had won I would have accepted the democratic vote like I do in elections. I would have supported whoever if it was for the best of my country and not try and sabotage because I didn't get the result I wanted. It's pathetic that people would want things to go wrong on Brexit.
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Unlike Nige then who called for a second vote when he thought remain had won. Are you doubting that the economy will suffer as a direct result of leaving the EU? Are you doubting that to recover from this downturn will take a long time if it can be done, Mogg said about 50 years IIRC. Strangely there are some of us that would prefer ourselves, our families and well pretty much everyone not to be worse off for an action we can see little or no benefits.

You mention project fear a lot, bit like Turkey joining the EU? Bit like a federal state? These things aren't going to happen.... project fear!!!

Have you ever considered that our interests might be relating to wanting the best functioning version of the UK rather than just letting a clusterfuck just go through without question?
 
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Ellers, we just obviously look at things differently. I like to read the words actually stated by the person talking, rather than somebodies opinion of the said person's talks. For example: JC has never said he didn't think the Salisbury poisoning was carried out by the Russians but instead aired caution before presuming guilt. You interpretate that as 'comrade Corbyn'. He has never once said anywhere at anytime that he hates Jews, quite the opposite infact. You interpretate that as he's a Jew hater!! Etc etc this is where we differ mate. I'm no fan of his but I actually think he's sound. Very rarely reads or answers from a written paper (unlike May) and takes all the bullshit propaganda on the chin.
 
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bobmid said:
I'm actually not a remainer as I've stated millions of times! The main people (in my opinion) who are cocking this up are the Tories themselves, not Jeremy bloody Corbyn!!!! I sit on the fence, look at both sides of the debate and I'm yet to hear anything that remotely strikes me as positive about leaving the EU without a good deal. Who will scupper a deal?? The TORY ERG and probably Labour? Is It a good deal? We won't ever get the chance to have a say on it unfortunately.
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We had a say 2 years ago, we also had an election where the 2 main parties stated that we would be leaving, yet one of them then decided they would want a 'people's vote' if in power and won't rule out remain? That is not Tory. Their hopeless leader then goes to Brussels to undermine the process for political gain (especially when he is a Eurosceptic). The nightMayor of London has done similar, and guess what... people like you blame JRM and the Tories? but you say
bobmid said:
I sit on the fence, look at both sides of the debate
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No you don't you are just anti-Tory.:emoticon-0148-yes:
 
bobmid said:
Ellers, we just obviously look at things differently. I like to read the words actually stated by the person talking, rather than somebodies opinion of the said person's talks. For example: JC has never said he didn't think the Salisbury poisoning was carried out by the Russians but instead aired caution before presuming guilt. You interpretate that as 'comrade Corbyn'. He has never once said anywhere at anytime that he hates Jews, quite the opposite infact. You interpretate that as he's a Jew hater!! Etc etc this is where we differ mate. I'm no fan of his but I actually think he's sound. Very rarely reads or answers from a written paper (unlike May) and takes all the bullshit propaganda on the chin.
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The media have been trying to discredit Corbyn for ages now with more and more ludicrous statements, twisting things that have been said and flat out bullshitting. Remember there was something about him meeting spies or something? <laugh> It's strange this is at it's worse when Corbyn is showing high in public opinion.
 
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Willhoops said:
The media have been trying to discredit Corbyn for ages now with more and more ludicrous statements, twisting things that have been said and flat out bullshitting. Remember there was something about him meeting spies or something? <laugh> It's strange this is at it's worse when Corbyn is showing high in public opinion.
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Of course it is mate, because of the way he handles the absolute rubbish spun on him, people are seeing that he's a decent bloke!
 
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Willhoops said:
The media have been trying to discredit Corbyn for ages
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No they haven't, he has done it himself, unless the media photoshopped his images into meeting with terrorists and changed some of his quotes then you are sounding like a Corbyn sympathiser.
 
bobmid said:
Ellers, we just obviously look at things differently. I like to read the words actually stated by the person talking, rather than somebodies opinion of the said person's talks. For example: JC has never said he didn't think the Salisbury poisoning was carried out by the Russians but instead aired caution before presuming guilt. You interpretate that as 'comrade Corbyn'. He has never once said anywhere at anytime that he hates Jews, quite the opposite infact. You interpretate that as he's a Jew hater!! Etc etc this is where we differ mate. I'm no fan of his but I actually think he's sound. Very rarely reads or answers from a written paper (unlike May) and takes all the bullshit propaganda on the chin.
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don't say that Bob, you're now a russian apologist. Off you go into the traitor pile ....<nahnah>
 
ELLERS said:
No they haven't, he has done it himself, unless the media photoshopped his images into meeting with terrorists and changed some of his quotes then you are sounding like a Corbyn sympathiser.
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Oh dear. I could post a picture of may meeting Saudis. You are so simple sometimes Ellers.
 
ELLERS said:
No they haven't, he has done it himself, unless the media photoshopped his images into meeting with terrorists and changed some of his quotes then you are sounding like a Corbyn sympathiser.
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That's one thing you have got right Ellers. I do sympathise with Corbyn. The bloke seems like a nice guy. Yet the Tories and media are terrified of his popularity so put propaganda out there for people like you to swallow
 
I've found another traitor

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Why is this man shaking hands and smiling with someone who wants to kill our country?
 
ELLERS said:
No they haven't, he has done it himself, unless the media photoshopped his images into meeting with terrorists and changed some of his quotes then you are sounding like a Corbyn sympathiser.
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Corbyn sympathizer <laugh> ****ing hell!! Yes Corbyn has met with some of these people!! Take Northern Ireland for example where by talking to these people he assisted in implementing the peace process! By meeting someone it doesn't mean you agree with their cause <doh>

However notice how you don't seem to be concerned by the reports of Islamaphobia in the Tory party? Or is that all photohop and quotes changed!
 
ELLERS said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...tizen-inviting-tea-terrace-House-Commons.html

Is this video not real?
As I said Corbyn has spent his career going against our country and supporting terrorists. If you lefties that keep liking each others posts cannot accept this evidence then you are just Corbyn sympathisers
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Did he know he was a terrorist? Nope didn't think so. Ok by that logic Stephen Yaxley supports peados! As a couple of his mates at the EDL have been done, ones he met on many on occasion.
 
BobbyD said:
I've found another traitor

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Why is this man shaking hands and smiling with someone who wants to kill our country?
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Traitor? you are deluded fella. Still March isn't far off now and we can all be happier when it comes and we leave that dying organisation and probably by then Corbyn's popularity may have gone up a piont. Sorry I was joking about the last bit, it won't. :emoticon-0100-smile
 
ELLERS said:
Traitor? you are deluded fella. Still March isn't far off now and we can all be happier when it comes and we leave that dying organisation and probably by then Corbyn's popularity may have gone up a piont. Sorry I was joking about the last bit, it won't. :emoticon-0100-smile
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Ha you know it's going up every single day fella. All thanks to the Tory party!
 
ELLERS said:
Traitor? you are deluded fella. Still March isn't far off now and we can all be happier when it comes and we leave that dying organisation and probably by then Corbyn's popularity may have gone up a piont. Sorry I was joking about the last bit, it won't. :emoticon-0100-smile
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of course he's a traitor, he's having a laugh with the opposition and shaking his hand. This is hard evidence
 
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