Match Day Thread The PL Season 16/17 All Star Thread

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The Liebherr Legacy said:
Think we've had this debate before mate...

How do you stop the game? Does the ball need to be out of play? If not how is the game fairly restarted?

Assuming the ball must be dead is there a time limit? Can the play go on for 5-10 minutes before it's pulled back?

If any card offences are commited in the time period talked about above are they then taken away if the previous decision is altered?

Whose decision is it to review? Officials or managers?

It works brilliantly in other sports where there are natural breaks but that isn't the case with football.

Plenty of people are always saying how it needs to come but I've yet to see a clear plan that addresses all the potential problems imo.
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How to stop the game? Simple, ref blows his whistle, like normal.

He Then asks the fourth official to replay the incident, asking him what he sees. Offside, not offside, etc....
 
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NowsufferinginSpain said:
How to stop the game? Simple, ref blows his whistle, like normal.

He Then asks the fourth official to replay the incident, asking him what he sees. Offside, not offside, etc....
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What even if the ball is in play?

What if the other team breaks 3 on 2 then it's pulled back and decision was right in first place?

Hardly fair and you can't give that advantage back.

Not having a go mate, if there's a way it can work then fair enough bring it in but it's far from 'simple' as you put it.

I also feel that after a while the refs would be reviewing almost everything but that's a bit of a different debate tbh.

Edit- Also I'm glad you mention the 4th official is that who should make the final call in your mind? Some say there should be 3 people making decisions which I don't agree with as different people have different interpretations.
 
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Skylarker said:
Not feeling it personally, it will end up coming eventually though.

Half way there already with goal line tech.
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Probably mate...

But goal line tech is different as it's black and white, no interpretation required and crucially no need to pause the game.

Fouls, offsides, handballs & cards a whole different ball game.
 
The Liebherr Legacy said:
What even if the ball is in play?

What if the other team breaks 3 on 2 then it's pulled back and decision was right in first place?

Hardly fair and you can't give that advantage back.

Not having a go mate, if there's a way it can work then fair enough bring it in but it's far from 'simple' as you put it.

I also feel that after a while the refs would be reviewing almost everything but that's a bit of a different debate tbh.

Edit- Also I'm glad you mention the 4th official is that who should make the final call in your mind? Some say there should be 3 people making decisions which I don't agree with as different people have different interpretations.
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Refs do it all the time. Blow the whistle and stop the game..

I understand what you're saying about the fourth official. But in these cases, he has the best view, and from different angles.

In RFU, it's put up on the big screen so the ref can see it for himself. Whether they'd allow that in football, I'm not so sure...
 
The Liebherr Legacy said:
Probably mate...

But goal line tech is different as it's black and white, no interpretation required and crucially no need to pause the game.

Fouls, offsides, handballs & cards a whole different ball game.
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One day a ref won't even be on the pitch, it'll be a computer watching the game that sounds a horn through the speakers when there is a decision.

Basically football is becoming 'Robot Wars' - and people want that ****?

Might as well have robots playing the game.
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
Refs do it all the time. Blow the whistle and stop the game..

I understand what you're saying about the fourth official. But in these cases, he has the best view, and from different angles.

In RFU, it's put up on the big screen so the ref can see it for himself. Whether they'd allow that in football, I'm not so sure...
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Yeah they stop the game when a decision is made...

But what about the situation I've described above? Surely it's grossly unfair to stop a promising position if there wasn't a decision to be made anyway.

Rugby is a poor comparison as it's very stop/start anyway. Football isn't... and making it so wouls ruin it imo.
 
The Liebherr Legacy said:
Yeah they stop the game when a decision is made...

But what about the situation I've described above? Surely it's grossly unfair to stop a promising position if there wasn't a decision to be made anyway.

Rugby is a poor comparison as it's very stop/start anyway. Football isn't... and making it so wouls ruin it imo.
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We'll agree to disagree.

In my view, it's coming, like it or not. There's too much money in the game nowadays to be having crucial points won or lost on the whim of ****wits like Moss, or Marriner...
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
We'll agree to disagree.

In my view, it's coming, like it or not. There's too much money in the game nowadays to be having crucial points won or lost on the whim of ****wits like Moss, or Marriner...
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Yeah I think we'll have to mate <laugh>

I agree that it will come in eventually. I just think there a lot more variables than most people consider at first, and hope it is done properly when it does happen.

I really think slowing the game down too much will kill it off a little bit for me.

You can add Mason and a whole host of others to your ref list too...which is half of the problem for me.
 
Skylarker said:
I'm against it. I like the controversy involved in football, call me old fashioned but **** off with a virtual ref.
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... not surprising ... without that ghost goal in the UCL semi that led to your fluke penalty shoot-out "victory", you'd have won fcuk all of note for the last quarter of a century <whistle>

[HASHTAG]#FlukeyFcukers[/HASHTAG]
 
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The Liebherr Legacy said:
Think we've had this debate before mate...

How do you stop the game? Does the ball need to be out of play? If not how is the game fairly restarted?

Assuming the ball must be dead is there a time limit? Can the play go on for 5-10 minutes before it's pulled back?

If any card offences are commited in the time period talked about above are they then taken away if the previous decision is altered?

Whose decision is it to review? Officials or managers?

It works brilliantly in other sports where there are natural breaks but that isn't the case with football.

Plenty of people are always saying how it needs to come but I've yet to see a clear plan that addresses all the potential problems imo.
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In the majority of incidents the game has already stopped and the handbags are out ... but the easy thing is that the '5th official' with the monitor tells the ref to blow for a possible incident ... more or less what happens in Rugby ...

For me it will cure far more ills than causing them ... end of <ok>
 
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No game for us on Boxing day this year <grr>

Been stitched up a good'un with 3 games in 6 days too <doh>
 
Arsenal scrape another win after a lot of 'Wenger out' the last few weeks. Arsenal fans happy.

Wenger the wum master.
 
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