Still don't agree with that but hey ho To be honest mate when referees turned professional a good few years back, I honestly haven't seen any change in the standard, which I thought would be glaringly obvious. Still making mistakes but if it wasn't for them free kicks and penalties which shouldn't have been given and for balls crossing the line and not be given. What else would we talk about?
This has been my main issues for a few years. Those ****ers earn about 70k a year plus expenses and the standard has actually got worse. That's not my main problem though. My problem is that with their professional status should have come a grater accountability. There's been non of that, demotion to a lower league means **** all when they're on a set salary. They get paid the same whether they officiate Man City or Macclesfield. Two or three games time all is forgiven, they're back potentially costing clubs millions, all the while they've been earning the same money doing exactly the same job. Poor ****ing them.
Heres my two cents In my opinion it looked like a penalty when i first saw it. However having seen replays i think it looked like a dive from johnson, or at the very least he went down very softly. If that was Man U i would have screamed dive. Anyway, not that i care much, as watching Man U fall has been a pleasure and also having a 2-1 bet on you guys to win was wonderful. As for the ref performance, i thought it was good in general, not too many nit picky calls (a few given to man u i wouldnt have but cant get everything right). The worse ones are when a team gets all the stupid niggly fouls. Rafael should have gone though. I reckon his challenge was borderline yellow, definite yellow if he hadnt got one but when a player is on a yellow already, not sure i would have given it
Crystal Palace spent more in the summer than the title winning first 11 of 1995/96 cost United. Money has a lot to do with how this sport is being ruined, from Sepp Blatter's bungs to Platini bottling the wage cap in Europe. At every governing level the standard is probably corrupt and certainly broken. These are the bosses of the referees mate, until that changes, what chance have you got of the standard of officials improving? It's a non-contact sport now more or less and these ref's probably didn't sign up for that years and years back. I feel sorry for them in a way but like you say, they get paid well enough so I won't dwell on it.
What difference does it make if a player is already on a yellow? It the players responsibility to control themselves not the refs.
Because not everything is black and white and there are shades of grey. Was rafael late, yes, was he trying to block the ball yes. Did he catch Borini of course, but it wasn't a deliberate chop him type challenge. Would that challenge be a yellow in a derby between Newcastle and Sunderland, probably not, you get away with things a bit more. If everything was by the book then when does an overhead kick become a high footed challenge. with regards to a player being on a yellow and a player without a yellow, if i was 80% sure it was a definite yellow and 20% not sure, i'd be more inclined to give it when i know there isnt a significant consequence than if i knew i could potentially ruin a game through my own incompetence
Man Utd supporters have openly boasted, over the years, about some of the ludicrous decisions, dubious 'Stretford End' penalties and goals scored in Fergie time ........ **** them. Will they give a **** if they win the 2nd leg with an offside goal or a handball
The circumstances put the onus on the player though. If you have just been booked you can't put yourself about like you weren't on a yellow. That instance was black and white. A ref can't go and say I've just booked him so I ought to not book him so quick Y again. If you think that its beggars belief.
I agree that it was stupid of rafael to go in like that already on a yellow but for me its more a point system which i guess isnt by the book exactly. Two bad yellow card fouls of course i would give. I don't happen to believe that it was a definite yellow and combined with the other yellow he received that altogher it was a red card offence in total. I guess thats why i'm not a ref thank god
My opinion, not that it really matters now is. Was it a foul: Yes Was it in the box: Yes Was it a pen: Yes (an official gave it, so it was) Was it a 2nd yellow? no IMO it was a foul but not enough to be another yellow card. The officials got it right for the majority of the match. All I ever want is a fair game and that is what we got.
Totally agree ...... none of the decisions were outrageous like Wes Brown's first sending off. If the penalty had been denied the same 'experts' would've been tapping their nose and saying 'Well we've all seen those given Gary'. When it was given they're claiming it was controversial and lucky for Sunderland. It was probably a penalty and that's good enough.
If it had been the other way round, there would certainly be no inquest..It is just such a surprise for everyone that we have been given a penalty against Man U..
It's a surprise that Man Utd have conceded a penalty at all ........... it was hilarious hearing their supporters twisting about it. They've been so used to having everything their own way haven't they? When the supporters finally turn on Moyes it'll be hilarious!
