All psychological but it does feel like we’re a newly promoted league 1 team rather than an established championship side. PH obviously needs time to do his thing but what concerns me is his lack of experience at this level. I fear Warky is right about Marcus Evans being clever in this appointment, he saves ££££ while seemingly giving the fans what they wanted. Without results though that will backfire quickly. Anyway we’re only 4 games in, maybe the confidence boost from a first win will settle everyone.
Just referring to money from players sold not being invested back into the team and the likelihood Mick was on a higher wage. Im sure there’s lots of other things to consider so I could be talking out of my arse, but it’s just the initial feelings after a poor start.
Feck me, there's a lot of ****e being spouted on here! MM was here too long, after 3 years he should have gone. I think PH should be given a decent bloody crack at it, even if we go down this season. 3 years is about right, what with all the changes and that. Give him this long and I think it will bare fruit but can't see it happening, toooooo many already questioning him, sadly. Warky you should be ashamed of yourself, asking the question 4 games in ffs!
I think that money will be reinvested in January - it came in late. But even if it isn't, there's no saving money going on, only reducing losses which is sensible and good for everybody in the long run. Mike Ashley DOES take a lot of money out of Newcastle to their detriment, it's not the same scenario at Town.
Not so sure about keeping faith with someone the entire season if we're in serious danger of going down!!! Far too early to have any idea, lets hopefully win Saturday and be off and running.
Going down simply is not an option! If we are in the bottom 3 at Christmas then action must be taken.
I think if we do get relegated, and at this rate it's far too early to be making those kind of assumptions and judgements, then we will struggle to get back up quickly. Some supporters romanticise relegation to League One as this great opportunity to rebuild and progress (such as Swansea and Norwich), but I think with our dwindling attendances, lack of revenue, financial constraints, and a lack of big characters and leaders in the dressing room, we'll end up more like your Sheffield Uniteds and Coventrys and actually struggle to bounce straight back up. I think relegation would be disastrous. However, with 42 games of the season remaining, we're nowhere near danger of that yet.
Queens Park Rangers Norwich City Swansea City Cardiff City Blackpool Wigan Athletic Bournemouth Brighton & Hove Albion Huddersfield Town Hull City Leicester City Southampton Wolves What do all these clubs have in common? Since we have been in the Championship they have all gone from League One into the Premier League. The only comparable sized club who have got stranded outside the Championship are Coventry and they're an extreme case. So our ambition needs to be the Premier League, not retaining our Championship status to the cost of all else.
Sheffield United were only in League One for one more season than Mick McCarthy was manager, and it would have been a lot shorter if Ched Evans hadn't got banged up. We need to get perspective and not mythologising the League system. We are in a large group of clubs just behind West Ham, Newcastle, Villa and Everton with a proud history, a fan base and a setup that means our place will nearly always be somewhere between the top two tiers. We need to stop giving the Championship so much respect and beholding promotion as some kind of Holy Grail. The Premier League should be our ambition and winning major trophies the Holy Grail.
You need to take off your Blue Tinted specs! We aren't the football club we once were and unfortunately we have been turned into a TAX avoidance vehicle by the Marcus Evans Group! Everything the Cobbolds built up has been torn down years ago mainly due to Sheepshanks and his hubris. We have a wonderful proud history but the future has never looked so bleak under this owner.
The only person who really didn't embody what the Cobbolds stood for was Mick McCarthy. Having no interest in playing football the right way, no ambition and even attacking the fans. Paul Hurst is a perfect fit for Town. Now every game, win or lose, is a step closer to where we want to be.
I won't retread an old debate Hampy, but you know my thoughts on that. Five Premier League / top flight seasons in the last 32 (thirty-two!) years is not the record of a big team, certainly not just behind Everton, West Ham, and Newcastle!
For the size of town/hinterland we are about where we deserve to be.Anything beyond that(including past glories) is a bonus.Doesn't mean I wouldn't love us to return to the Premiership one day. https://thegeographist.wordpress.com/2016/04/07/largest-cities-uk-population/
Forget about the old Football League era because football is completely different now. Leeds United have done no better than us, they are still a massive club. Bigger than Town. Nottingham Forest, Sheffield Wednesday, Norwich City, Leicester City, Bolton Wanderers. Regardless of what era you're in these clubs and Town will nearly always be in the top two divisions. So for a club of our stature we have pretty much been playing out the worst case scenario. We really are in no danger whatsoever of dropping out of the Football League or anything as dramatic as that. Most of the level of the Championship is equivalent to the standard of most of the old First Division anyway, more people watch the Championship now than La Liga or Serie A. But outside those 7 clubs nobody has a prolonged spell in the top flight. Newcastle, West Ham, Leicester, Fulham and Southampton realistically all have a chance of sticking around for a while but the majority of those names will play in the Championship again in the next decade. Bournemouth, Cardiff, Brighton, Burnley, Palace, Fulham, Huddersfield, Leicester, Southampton, Watford, Wolves. These clubs are not bigger than Ipswich Town - some of them are punching above their weight - and none of them are secure in their long term Premier League future. We have every chance to be a Premier League side again - staying there is very different these days - and likewise we are not immune from a couple of seasons in League One. There are always going to be one or two sides that are miles ahead of the rest of the Championship. With a bit of belief and long term planning Town can be one of those sides in 3 or 4 years from now.
Size of city really has not that much to do with it. Ipswich Town is a footballing town that very much centres around the football club. Other bigger cities have other stuff going on - Rugby, Cricket, nightlife, shopping, a beach.
I wasn't saying size of population was the be all and end all to measure it by but it's as good a starting point as any.
I was in Portsmouth for a while - before and at the beginning of their Premier League era. Very few people I spoke to thought they were fans of the football club or knew what division they were in. People got more interested when they were a Premier League club and got to the Cup finals, but I'm sure they have lost interest again now. I went to watch a couple of games with a die hard fan, but it really wasn't like Suffolk where in almost every household it's a topic of conversation, nearly everyone knows the fortunes, and our spell out of the limelight hasn't changed that because our attendances are way higher now than in the 90s. Glasgow has the same thing as Suffolk. Leeds where I am now not so much so because people's interests are divided by so many sports and pastimes.
You may not be but the majority of us certainly are...! https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/34313/hurst-too-early-to-worry-about-lack-of-goals We are not scoring and we cant defend...a recipe for disaster.
