Gaston's only played 6.5 games so far and he was our best player in about 5 of them. I hope no one is writing him off. Michu has been excellent for Swansea so far. He also plays in a different position to Ramirez.
Yeah, what doughnuts we are getting a £35m England striker for a minimal loan fee for the season. I mean, we could have signed Jay Rodriguez for £7m. If only Our chairmen had that kind of transfer acumen
The one that got away is a good song! [video=youtube;Ahha3Cqe_fk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahha3Cqe_fk[/video] The video is very sad though.
Without any doubt Michu is the signing of the season so far in terms of contribution and price. To put Gaston up there based on what has happened so far is ridiculous. That doesn't mean he won't turn in to a great buy though and he has shown signs but no comparison at present.
Rubbish. He's not a flat out better player at all. Don't be so biased to our players. Michu has 10 league goals already and cost only 2 million. We spent 12 million on Ramirez. We even spent 7 million on Rodriguez......... Just to add. I'd have been happy to have taken Ramirez out the equation if it meant 10 league goals. You don't know that he'll become better. And he certainly isn't right now.
When I wrote this, I never even thought of the comparison with Gaston, they are both excellent players and there is no doubt that Michu would've definately enhanced our squad and i'm sure that we could've fitted him into the side somehow, after all our front 4 are often interchangeable.
Yes he is. Goals are a very important thing and have been huge for Swansea and makes him a very good signing and important player for Swansea, but at this moment in time he's not a better player than Ramirez. If Ramirez was still at Bologna I'd tell you that, doesn't matter that he's a Saints player. I've known about and watched both players before they arrived at the clubs, Michu for the last year and Gaston for the last two. And I can confidently say that Ramirez is an all-round superior player already at his age and has potential to get even better. The quality of players go deeper than goals. Michu is a great goalscorer and he has that over Ramirez there is no doubt, and so far his contribution has been greater than Ramirez. But that does not make him a better player, he has got a great goal tally and has done very well, but that is as the focal point and only goal threat of an established Premier League team. Ramirez has come into a struggling newly promoted side and only started 8 games whilst struggling with an injury and match fitness, and played a creative playmaking role. And price is irrelevant in terms of who is the better player, unless you think Torres and Carroll are the best two strikers in the league?
To be fair, no-one could have seen how well he's adapted to the league. Apart from last season, when he got 15 in 37 (decent record, but not great) he was playing in the Spanish second tier and still never managed more than 6 league goals a season. Must be a late bloomer.
Ignoring the salaries, Swansea are better than Southampton which lets Michu do his thing whereas Ramirez is not afforded the same luxury on Saints. Don't know if Ramirez would be "better" than Michu if they were both on Swansea as they are different players. But I do feel like Michu has a certain aversion to playing defense and seems to get a bit pouty when he feels like he isn't getting the ball enough. I don't think he would have been a good fit.
i like michu ..... i am biased ofcourse one thing extra you have to give him alot of credit is his positioning, you don't get the goals without being in the right place at the right time and being there is not down to luck 90% of the time.
You really are dreaming here. Ramirez had 12 goals and 6 assists in 58 games for Bologna. Not very impressive considering he takes plenty of set pieces. The way you are talking you'd have thought he was unlocking defences like Iniesta. So neither of them have particularly impressive records before this season as far as I'm concerned. Ramirez will may develop into a better player in time. But to say he's a flat out better player right now really is very funny. You say Ramirez is playing a creative playmaker role as an excuse for him not scoring as many per game. Yes, he's in the free role and given tons of freedom yet only has 2 assists in 8 1/2 games taking set pieces and with a player on Lambert's quality in front of him. I am very hopeful he develops into a better player and he has plenty of time to do that still however. You're last line is a strange one considering what I've said. I'm basically saying Michu is better at this moment. If you didn't know 2 million is 10 million less than 12 million. So I wouldn't think price matters would I.... 8 1/2 and he wasn't our best player in 5.
Mikey has gotta be the most biased poster on here. Reminds me of your game with us when he said we got lucky for all of our goals apart from the fourth when you had "stopped trying"!!! Ramirez and Michu are different but all things considered, Michu would BY FAR the better signing even at half the price of Gaston. The fact he was 1/6 of the price just makes it an absolute non-discussion.
There you go talking about stats again. Let me try and clear up my point of view. I'm not talking about who's scored more goals or who's had a bigger impact or was better value or any of that, I'm talking about from a technical viewpoint, if you weigh up each players assets, who is better overall. Ramirez is quicker, a better long and short passer, a better dribbler, a better crosser, more skillful and more creative and he's even shown to be better defensively. Michu is a better finisher (in terms of close range shooting and positioning) and is a better header of the ball. Famirez is all-round the better player. I would of told you that last June and I'll tell you it now, regardless of Michu's fantastic impact and all the hype, that doesn't magically turn him into the perfect footballer. He does one main thing and he does it well; score goals, that makes him a very important player and means he's had a better season than Ramirez by a mile there is no question, but it doesn't make him a better player. A good comparison would be Shinji Kagawa, who has played pretty well for United but has only played 6/7 games before getting injured. Does that mean Michu has had a better and more important season than Kagawa? Yes. Does it mean that he's a better player than him? No. Same goes for Ramirez. At this very moment in time Michu is playing better and having a much greater impact, but that doesn't make him the better player as a whole. I'm just curious, I'm not trying to discount or cheapen your opinion, but did you actually watch or were you aware of either player before they arrived in the Premier League? Thanks for your input fella!
