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Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Big Ern, Mar 22, 2022.

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Who's getting the big bottle of Rose Water

Poll closed Mar 26, 2022.
  1. Charles leClerc

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  2. Carlos Sainz

    38.5%
  3. Lewis Hamilton

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  4. George Russell

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  5. Max Verstappen

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  6. Sergio Perez

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  7. Kevin Magnusson

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  8. Pierre Gasly

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  9. West Ham are MASSIVE

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  10. Other (specified)

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  1. push

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    I was thinking of the nitro burning blown and injected funny cars.How I`d love to be in the USA and attend an NHRA meeting !!!
     
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  2. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Now we're just being plain insane. :p
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Hydrogen fuel cells are tiny. They are certainly not like the Hindenburg.

    The issue with hydrogen is that it is in effect an electric battery replacement. You are trying to start a chemical reaction between hydrogen and oxygen in an electrolytic cell. This is therefore just subbing for batteries. The issue is where you get the hydrogen from

    You can use high pressure liquid hydrogen in an internal combustion engine but that's just yesterdays news.

    The point about hydrogen is is resolves most issues with the global battery thing.

    A) lessens reliance on national states like Russia and china etc who dominate the rare earth elements needed for the amount of batteries full electric needs.

    B) can be energy independent as a country on your own


    C) can kill off the range anxiety with full electric that is actually holding development back massively still.

    D) can stick two fingers up at Elon musk and frankly anything that does that to that egotistical is a good thing.

    E) finally electric is far faster, higher accelerating and simpler than complex gearing and ice set ups.

    However the environmental nazis have decided its far better to pollute the planet elsewhere then totally ignore where their fuel really comes from and act smug as they "save the planet"
     
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  4. eddie_squidd

    eddie_squidd Well-Known Member

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    I so want hydrogen fuel cells to be the future because they would give you the benefits of electric motor performance and freedom from fossil fuels without the range issues of batteries. But what’s holding them back is finding a sustainable way to extract the hydrogen as the energy required to do this will be far more than the energy you subsequently get back in a fuel cell.

    So you have to produce a huge amount of electricity in the first place, and if you don’t do that sustainably then you are not solving any problems. And arguably if you can produce that power sustainably then just store it in batteries, as using to split water to get hydrogen to use in a fuel cell is less efficient. The problems are huge. If we can solve them then we have nothing less than limitless clean free power. You could run your house off it. But, like cold fusion, the problems in achieving it are huge.
     
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  5. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Didn't look like Horner was particularly happy for Perez to get pole.
    As for the circuit, what a joke that they've ruined so many great circuits in the name of safety, and then they rock up here.
     
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  6. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

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  7. Justjazz

    Justjazz Well-Known Member

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    372 foot long and priced at $645 million - Bill Gates has just bought the worlds first hydrogen-powered superyacht - Luxurylaunches

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    Due for launch in 2024
     
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  8. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I've seen a petrol tank 'explode', it's nowhere near as impressive as The A Team led me to believe.
    So no, it's worse, it's as dangerous as Hollywood petrol.
     
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  9. TopClass

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    There was a very tentative lap from Lewis yesterday. I don’t think the bloke looks comfortable being there at all if I’m honest.

    I think Saudi in general doesn’t sit well with him and then to have a missile attack down the road he’s probably though my let’s just get out of here and move on.

    We will see in Melbourne etc if he’s still hungry, but he’s certainly not himself this weekend.
     
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  10. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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  11. Mark Blow

    Mark Blow Well-Known Member

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    I think Lewis has already written this season off as winning his 8th title. He will try of course but when you’re going for a title you alway put more into it. It’s different to George who is going to put more in because it’s his first season and he has to justify his seat.
     
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  12. ched999uk

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    I may be being way too optimistic but I think if Merc can solve the bouncing they will gain performance in a big way. They will be able to use less wing so less drag, plus more downforce to enable them to go faster everywhere.
     
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  13. DHCanary

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    This is my hope too. It seeks pretty clear the porpoising is preventing them unlocking the full potential of the car, and they're having to make compromises to address it.

    If Mercedes can solve the porpoising without the solution removing that theoretical pace, perhaps they'll be able to be competitive sooner rather than later.

    One thing I've seen mentioned is the lack of sidepods means they get good airflow to the beam wing, but it's also creating a lot of draggy turbulence off the rear wheels, because the air isn't being deflected away from them. Maybe they can put more sidepod bodywork in place, without it being a true sidepod, to deflect it?

    Also worth bearing in mind that this track is one Mercedes thought they'd be worst at, and they have had no chance to improve from last week - no new parts. There's a new floor being expedited to be available from Australia.
     
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  14. Mark Blow

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    Are any team allowed to totally redesign their car and introduce it during the season so long as it passes the crash tests? Seeing how stable the Ferrari is and the Ferrari design is different could they go down that design route and introduce it during the season?
     
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  15. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    oh dear, the RBR PU that didn't break down last week, breaks down. 3rd party fuel pump again is it Mr Horner?
     
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  16. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    I guess they could, but will the budget allow it?
     
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  17. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Blimey, that was hairy with the Alpines.
     
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  18. Mark Blow

    Mark Blow Well-Known Member

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    Well Hamilton is going to end up being lapped by the Ferraris and the Red Bulls at this rate. 24 seconds behind after 6 laps
     
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  19. ched999uk

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    He is on hard tyres but even so....
     
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  20. Mark Blow

    Mark Blow Well-Known Member

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    Even after getting passed Icon, George is 14 seconds behind after 7 laps, and 8 seconds behind Sainz. Alonso will be thinking I can beat Russell here
     
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