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The edge of his limits mentally and physically, a **** car pushes you far... (Mercedes-Ferrari-Mclaren) All credit to him, he is a fantastic driver and deserves a better Ferrari.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95466 Seems there was something up with Lewis' McLaren. Unless it was damage, can;t see what else could cause such a loss of downforce. Didn;t see him hit anyone today or pick up any debris
I am just throwing this out there but I find it suspicious that Mark Webber told Red Bull that his tyres were ok and yet instead of trying to stay out a lap longer or going for the undercut they pit him at the same time as Hamilton ensuring he keeps behind him. Horner said that it was just unlucky that Hamilton pitted at the same time but Mclaren radioed Hamilton to come in that lap so Red Bull would of known Hamilton was pitting that lap. Was this just Red Bull trying to keep Webber behind Hamilton so he could not attack Vettel?
Possibly, but why ruin a 1,2 chance? Horner said to pit at that moment in time, which I believe no mention or chatter of Lewis going in at the same time. Possibly, but it could just be unlucky that they pitted at the same time.
Why did Webber pit when he saw Lewis come in? I've never understood why drivers can't use their own common sense in those situations. On about lap 30 Ted broadcast to the world that McLaren were planning to stop on lap 35, Webber stopped on 34 so I think they were going for the undercut.
Knowing how much they like stats and records, maybe they want Vettel to get most wins in a season? I think the record is 12 by Mr M Schumacher. Would give more kudos to an already dominant season.
Yes I think Webber should of just carried on by himself, but that is not really the issue here, it is why Red Bull pitted him when they did. Look at 2:04.00 on http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b016317j/Formula_1_2011_The_Korean_Grand_Prix/iplayer, Red Bull knew Hamilton was pitting that lap.
Have a look at this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b016317j/Formula_1_2011_The_Korean_Grand_Prix/?t=121m08s That's two moves (arguably three moves if you count him moving again to take a better line for the next corner - I don't have a problem with the third move but many were furious after Schumacher made an additional move for this reason in Monza). Hamilton did it later on in the race but I can't remember which lap it was.
So you're counting the feint down the straight as 2 moves in the same way that two moves from one side of the track to block another driver is looked at?
Pat on the back for having the balls to stand with me and point this out, because it needs to be. Just because Hamilton is in a rough patch of his life, does not mean he can get away with moves like this.
Who's asking him to get away with it? Didn't hear Webber/Red Bull making any complaints about his driving, blocking, double moves either during or after the race. You make it sound like he did a move similar to Schumacher trying to put Barrichello on the wall last year!
It would count as two moves if Webber was completely blocked from going up the outside underbraking, I say there's at least a car's width there so no.
Hamilton pulled off these moves, people ignored them and that is it... All I am saying is that it shouldn't of happened. Why is Hungary being brought into this thread btw?
Your phrase 'moves like this' makes it sound like he has done something horrendous, so I brought in a comparison of what is a horrendous move.
Illegal is illegal, and that is the word I and some others on this forum will not hesitate to call that move.