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The Official Not606 British GP Predictions & Chat

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by El_Bando, Jun 27, 2011.

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Has britain got talent?

Poll closed Jul 8, 2011.
  1. Sebastian Vettel 186Pts

    46.2%
  2. Jenson Button 109Pts

    12.8%
  3. Mark Webber 109Pts

    2.6%
  4. Lewis Hamilton 97Pts

    20.5%
  5. Fernando Alonso 87Pts

    17.9%
  6. Felipe Massa 42Pts

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  7. Nico Rosberg 32Pts

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  8. Vitaly Petrov 31Pts

    0 vote(s)
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  9. Nick Hiedfeld 30Pts

    0 vote(s)
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  10. Other (Please Specify)

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  1. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    Charity fashion photo shoot:

    [video=youtube;Y8NhU3hcDFo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8NhU3hcDFo[/video]​

    Should be funnier...

    [video=youtube;m0D2kuLelVM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0D2kuLelVM[/video]​

    ... but it's not.
     
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  2. Nick HCAFC

    Nick HCAFC Active Member

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    Haven't been since 2006 but looking to go next year.
     
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  3. Kyle?

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    I predict that lewis hamilton moans about something. The bookies should be handing me my money pretty soon...
     
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  4. Chris 13

    Chris 13 Well-Known Member

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    Will the new rules make a difference? I hope so but I can't see past a Red Bull 1-2 unfortunatly.
     
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  5. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    There are no new rules, just a more stringent application of the existing rules. IMO it's not going to impact Red Bull significantly because there's no way that car's dominance is down to one trick solution, Ferrari should gain rather than lose because their solution isn't (allegedly) as advanced as others', McLaren will fall back perhaps behind Ferrari, and Renault and Mercedes may suffer most of all, perhaps dropping back into the clutches of Sauber, Force India and Toro Rosso depending on how much they're impacted.
     
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  6. Forza Bianchi

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    The British Grand Prix represents a watershed in this season, both in terms of time and also on the technical front. The race that will take place at the rebuilt Silverstone facility, known as The Home of British Motorsport in the UK and one of the iconic venues on the calendar, is the ninth of the season. It kicks off a very busy month with two further Grands Prix to come, first in Germany and then in Hungary. By the end of July, it will be clear which way the championship will go for Scuderia Ferrari.

    The first part of the season was very exciting for the fans in the stands at the Grands Prix and for those watching on television: the return of KERS, the introduction of DRS and a new construction philosophy relating to the Pirelli tyres all contributed to producing more spectacular racing. And yet, for all fans of the Prancing Horse, one key element was missing: a Ferrari win.

    The early part of the season definitely did not live up to expectations, but there were signs of a comeback in recent races, ratified by three podium finishes in Istanbul, Monaco and Valencia, three races held on street circuits where aerodynamic efficiency plays a less important role. This situation, in addition to the use of softer tyres and the arrival of some updates for the 150º Italia, delivered a visible improvement in terms of being competitive. Now we are back at a track with very different characteristics: on this high speed circuit designed around the old Silverstone aerodrome, a picture will begin to emerge as to whether the incredible effort put in over the past months, and the latest aerodynamic modifications to emerge from that work, has paid off. “The last three races were very important for all of and we had never been as competitive as that this season,” said Fernando Alonso. “Even if maybe the track characteristics could have given us a hand, it was important to be fighting for the podium places and even for the win, because it means we can tackle the coming races in good spirits. At Silverstone, we will find out where we are in terms of being competitive even at tracks which, on paper at least, do not suit us. I am keen to see how things will work out, especially as we will also have some more updates on the 150º Italia which should give us a little bit more.”(these updates concern the floor, exhausts and a new rear wing. Editor’s note) When thinking of England, changeable weather always springs to mind. “You can quickly go from sunshine to rain or vice versa,” reckons Fernando. “We have to be ready to tackle any change in the weather and make the most of it.”

    Felipe Massa too heads for England with the same desire to keep going down the path seen at the last few races: “I hope that the progress we have made these past weeks will allow us to improve still further, even on a track which, in theory is not that suited to our car. We go back to using the Pirelli pair of compounds that we had in the earlier part of the season, but while it’s true we struggled a bit on the Hards, it is equally true that the car has improved since then. Being on the pace at Silverstone would be a good sign and would confirm that we have been working in the right direction over the past two months.”

    The subject of tyres is always on the agenda and Fernando does not hold back when it comes to commenting on the performance of the Pirellis over the first eight races of 2011. “I think the fans have appreciated the show they have seen so far: you really need to wait until the closing stages of the race to see if the situation might change around. There is no doubt that Formula 1 has become more interesting and it means that what Pirelli was asked to deliver in terms of tyre specification to create a better show has been achieved. The tyres work well and there are no problems with them. It is the same for everyone: we know that some compounds are better suited than others to our car, but it’s down to us to make them work as well as possible, working on set-up and aerodynamics.

    Eight of the twelve teams currently competing in the Formula 1 World Championship are based in the UK and therefore, in football terms, the British Grand Prix can be seen as an “away” fixture for Scuderia Ferrari. It’s true that these days the English teams get no more opportunity to test there than the foreign ones, as was the case up to a few years ago, but there are other aspects that make life easier for them when racing close to home, especially in terms of logistics. Along with the Italian Grand Prix, the Scuderia’s home race, the British Grand Prix is the longest standing fixture on the calendar, this year’s race being the 62nd, the vast majority having taken place at Silverstone. The English circuit has evolved over the years and it has spent the past year building an entirely new pit and paddock complex. It is not just a new facility, it has also moved from its location after the Woodcote corner to a new home between Club and Abbey corners. The teams are looking forward to working in better surroundings while race fans will be looking forward to more overtaking, as this track’s high speed corners and lack of braking has meant that one car passing another has been a rare occurrence here. However, KERS, DRS and the Pirelli tyres should make a significant contribution to changing this state of affairs. The one question mark centres on the Kinetic Energy Recover System, as there are not many points at this track to recharge it, given that brakes are possibly one of the least used components on a car at this venue. Whichever team manages to get the most out of the KERS, even in this situation, might end up with an advantage.

    http://www.ferrari.com/English/Formula1/News/Headlines/Pages/110705_British_GP_a_watershed_race.aspx

    [video=youtube;fvvDKz4WWU4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvvDKz4WWU4[/video]
     
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  7. BrightLampShade

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  8. genjigonzales

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    DRS zones confirmed.

    please log in to view this image
     
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  9. u408379965

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    Just the one zone again. <diva>
     
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  10. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    But is it not strange that it has a corner in the activation zone? It's a flat out corner with full downforce but will it still be flat out with DRS activated, or flat out for everyone with DRS activated?
     
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  11. Masanari

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    I am not sure if it will still be flat out with the DRS or not, but if I have got the corner right then it is easily flat out on F1 2010 even in the wet.
     
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  12. u408379965

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    Vettel operated the F Duct through there last season, but then again he did take Copse flat out...

    I think it should be ok flat for most of them, maybe on hard tyres, in the slipstream with heavy fuel the lower teams might struggle.
     
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  13. Forza Bianchi

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  14. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I think it's Hamiltons to lose. Mclaren 1-2.
     
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  15. Forza Bianchi

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    On a dry track, I highly doubt that. In fact I'm fairly confident about Ferrari making a big step forward in Silverstone.

    The first reason being the off throttle blown diffuser ban. McLaren drivers seemed very pessimistic in Valencia and said they will be affected badly by the ban - this was despite Whitmarsh saying a few days earlier that the team hoped to gain half a second on Red Bull due to the ban. Meanwhile Red Bull might have CLAIMED that they only use cold blowing and that they will only lose half a second, but throughout the time since the ban was announced, Adrian Newey has been taking a more realistic opinion on the effect of the ban - saying that Red Bull will be affected "quite heavily" because their car was designed around the exhaust. Even the optimistic Red Bull people like Horner and Marko believe Ferrari will gain an advantage over them due to the ban. What remains clear is that Red Bull will still enjoy an aerodynamic advantage when on the throttle, but the 2011 cars don't have as much downforce as the 2010 ones - so I doubt Red Bull will be taking corners like Corpes flat for example.

    The second reason is that Ferrari are due a big update because we haven't seen many new parts from Ferrari or Pat Fry specifically. He became Technical Director and had less than two weeks before Monaco - so I'm pretty confident that ALL of the updates Ferrari had in Monaco were due to Aldo Costa. In Canada, all we had was a lower downforce wing (which was always going to come for Canada), so again nothing special. At this stage, a new rear suspension was tested but again I think Ferrari were still completing Costa's unfinished projects at the time. The rear suspension tests proved to be successful and was on the car in Valencia - but there weren't any other major update to the car in Valencia. On 1st and 2nd July, Ferrari completed their final allocated Varaino aerodynamic test, which suggests that there's some significant parts for Silverstone. Not only are there various rumours of a completely revolutionary rear end (new rear wing, floor, exhaust, diffuser), but Ferrari have officially confirmed most of these parts already - and I'm sure we will see a few pictures tomorrow and Ted will mention the many updates in Practice (which I won't be around for).
     
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    Agreed. Whether it's dry or not, I can see him maybe not winning but doing something special.
     
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  17. Masanari

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    If it is a dry race then I think Mclaren do not really have a chance for the win, they will be battling for the final podium spot with Alonso and I think Alonso will get it. My prediction is; Webber, Vettel, Alonso, Hamilton, Button.
     
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  18. Forza Bianchi

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    I mostly agree with that, but I would put Button in 4th and Massa 5th

    I think the pecking order at the top will be Red Bull, Ferrari, McLaren.

    If Lewis is being serious about his title hopes still being alive, that puts him under even more pressure. Lewis doesn't respond well to pressure ... or Pirelli tyres for that matter.

    The corner speed isn't very high so I think most teams will be have little difficulty using DRS there. It is quite interesting that they have the DRS in that location though - perhaps the FIA believe the DRS zone wouldn't be very effective if it was after turn 5
     
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  19. Julius Caesar

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    But to be fair you say that every race.

    Ill go for
    1. Vettel
    2. Hamilton
    3. Alonso
    4. Webber
    5. Button
    6. Massa

    Im predicting a bit of madness. No teammates finishing right behind each other.
     
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  20. genjigonzales

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    You don't have to visit The Scum to view it.
     
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