By placing the burden of 'proving you can' on your shoulders, if you cant, then you answer my question which answers your question and I'm getting dizzy
I will answer your question. As soon as you provide me with a rigorous and empirically proven method of measuring the quality of any given player. I'm waiting... P.S. You know you can never prove anything right? Proof is only the absence of disproof.
Thats my pointy, cheers matey I say it cant be done really unless th eplayer can be actually studied ect ect and then there's the mental too team mates also play a huge part in a players effectiveness, I am saying it is a seemingly impossible task And I am asking for proof a lack of it leans to the opposite, impossible till someone actually does it I reckon P.S. Improbable may be a better word
Just because I maybe ermm.. I dunno I would say its an open mindded opinion, and so is the who is best debate, opinions but in the end I AM STILL WAITING ON THAT PROOF Everything I say is fact and thats it end of END OF
Opinions are opinions. Comparisons are pointless. I don't like Chelsea though. That opinion is a fact.
Haven't you heard, stats don't prove anything, fact can only be proven by winning a pin the tail on the donkey competition.
Exactly. You can't prove who is better without defining how quality is measured. And football has too many variables to provide a single definition of quality. To compound that, football has too many variables (consistency, mental strength etc) that can't actually be measured in any meaningful way. It's one of the reasons most awards, including the three I mentioned, are done by voting. Highly improbable imo. Like I said above, first you'd need someone to identify all the variables which influence a footballer's "quality". Then you'd need someone to clearly define a measurement for each of those variables. Then someone would need to work out a weighting for each of those variables in order to come up with an overall measure of quality. Then someone would need to apply this measure to all players and show that it explains why, for example, Messi is better than Rooney, Reina is better than Gomes and Vidic is better than Lescott. In fact, just for those three, you'd probably need different weightings for defenders, attackers, goalkeepers etc. It'd be a mammoth task requiring some supercomputers and a lot of football loving nerds. And it'd make debates like this one infinitely more boring. Anyone else's brain hurt right about now?
