Off Topic The Nurses
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bring in a NHS tax £5 a week for every one in England raising about £260 m a week give that to all the workers, paramedics, nurses, doctors, porters, scientists etc. I mean the price of a magazine once a week, not much to ask but to help the NHS.
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That's after years of either no pay rise or not keeping in line with the cost of living.
Worth every penny imo
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Genuine question mate. Where would it end? Loads of other public sector would expect the same. I agree NHS are worth their weight in gold. Just dont see 19% being something any givt can agree. Hope they get something agreeable though, we are in for a horrible long winter otherwise.
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Trouble is mate, the previous years rises or pay freezes have meant this one needs to be a big one to get it back to a sensible amount
Nurses pay scales are many, and each band goes on years service. But the 19% the domino effect would be horrendous.
Standard tactics? If they ask for X, they might get 50% of X so they might as well make X a larger amount.
I would be happy to see the average pay rise for MPs and nurses over the last 10 years, at least we would see the balance of who’s had what.
Maybe there could be a commitment to pay over inflation for x amount of years until the parity is restored.
Remember they got an above inflation pay rise last year while most of the other public service workers got nothing.
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Chunksafc
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Found this one with a quick search
https://nursingnotes.co.uk/news/pol...tically-increased-duties-due-to-the-pandemic/
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They also have had several pay freezes over the past 15 years
I thought already pay my taxes for things like the NHS! Plus that £5 a week would be like giving to a lot of charities these days, everyone takes a cut and about 1p would go to the places you mention!
OR we could exit the EU and definitely get £350m for the NHS. That money should be coming in any day now.......
Maybe so, but we're already seeing the domino effect of underpaying nurses. More than 40,000 nurses left the profession last year. Plenty now go abroad where the pay is 2-3 times higher as well. Less nurses means more pressure on the ones remaining and makes retention even harder.
It costs an average of £9k a year to do a degree - a nursing degree takes 3 years. So the average nurse is coming out of university with £27k debt and after working in their role for 5 years is earning about £33k a year. For this they're working ridiculous hours under huge pressure and with a massive understaffing issue.
Less people want to go into nursing than before and more of them are considering leaving than ever. If you won't pay them well enough to retain them and recruit more, how will you stop the system from getting worse?
Thank you for that mate, Steam was only coming out of my ears before, it’s coming out of every f***ing orifice now.
The biggest problem for me though all the
s hite you listen to from opposition MPs, they still take all the rises though.
True. As has almost everyone else in the public sector. The worst affected being those who are now covering for everyone else and legally aren't allowed to strike.
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Sorry, I'm missing your point? Are you suggesting because other public sector workers have had pay freezes that nurses should just accept it?