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The Nitty Gritty of the BLM movement

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  1. Bob Cheval

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    Like trying to pick an all-time Man United midfield:

    Best, Charlton, Robson, Keane, Giggs, Beckham, Scholes, Ronaldo, Edwards, Ince. Which 4?
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    "Incredibly Jordan Henderson wasn't even born when Liverpool last won the title ...

    ... just sit back and try to imagine that!"


    The closest I've ever come to hoying a pint glass through the telly.
     
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    That horrible feeling when you realise you are old, I was bored when I moved up the Lakes so I got a job in a pub for something to do a young lass was working with me and a universal soldier by donavon came on the juke box she asked me about it and said she wasn’t born when that was released so I said when you get home ask your mum she will explain it to you, the next week when I saw her I asked if she’d asked her mum and she yes but she said she wasn’t born then either <laugh>
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

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    <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Nigerian policemen are walking around shooting unarmed people protesting about police brutality.

    Why aren't BLM activists, and Nigerian football players, making their feelings known.

    I've only seen Ighalo, at Man Utd, say anything at all, fair play to the lad.
     
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    polyphemus Well-Known Member

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    They may well have family still living there or wish to return themselves at some time.

    If so, making enemies of the local Police or Politicians just might be considered a touch 'tactless'.
     
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    yet it's ok to do the same where they live but are protected? By that i mean i'm sure that the police and the politicians really don't want all the protesting etc. but they're quite safe to protest in comparison would you agree?

    If so, does that make their protests somewhat lacking in substance as they aren't prepared to protest against those that may actually do them harm and injustice? Seems a tad hypocritical to me but then again i'm a middle aged white guy who gets **** all assistance from the government because i'm considered one of the "lucky ones"
     
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    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I thought the whole point of the BLM movement was to make a stand and not just accept police brutality and outdated attitudes.
     
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    All his songs were shìt.

    And so was Neighbours.


    <laugh>
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

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    As I said in the OP I find it all hypocritical.

    Why are Nigerian players kneeling down, clenching fists and protesting about an American criminal dying in a botched arrest ...

    ... yet turning a blind eye to their innocent countrymen being gunned down.

    I believe it's because BLM is a trendy bandwagon that's easy to hop on. The other is out of sight and therefore, sadly, out of mind.
     
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  11. Sinner

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    The idea is black live also matter in a predominantly white country. Statistics suggest black lives don't seem as valuable in some societies.
    It's not a comment in general on man's inhumanity to man. That is another matter.

    Man U Nigerian player on TV the other night very upset at what is happening in Lagos.
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

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    That's my point.

    It seems that, in the eyes of some people, black Nigerian lives aren't as valuable as black American lives.
     
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  13. Sinner

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    You're missing the point.
     
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  14. E.T. Fairfax

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    I have no statistical knowledge of the fact, and I'm throwing this in the air a bit, but I would suggest that it is probable that, globally, more black folk are mistreated by other black folk than by white folk.
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    No I'm not, I'm well aware of the point but am making a slightly different one.

    The Nigerian police are the worst in the world for brutality, murder ...

    ... much worse than the UK or American police forces.

    Yet Nigerian players say nothing about one while, at the same time, protesting about the other.

    That's hypocrisy.
     
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  16. Sinner

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    No it's not. Supporting a protest against perceived injustice is perfectly acceptable, regardless of what is happening in their own country.
    They may well support protest against police brutality in Nigeria, in fact I know some do, it does not meant they cannot show support for other causes.
     
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    How do you know that?
     
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  18. Sinner

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    There was one on TV the other night very upset at what is going on in Lagos. African players often get involved politically or otherwise, using their wealth and fame. Not advertised over here so much.
     
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    #EndSars
     
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  20. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    are you African mate or a concerned citizen
     
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