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The most loyalist area in Belfast?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Medro, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. EDGE.

    EDGE. Official POTY 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018 & 2023

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    Do you feel intimidated walking about the streets of "Doire" with you and your thick cockney accent.

    "Leave it out Seamus, are you mutt and jeff? Have a dicky bird with yourself mate, I'm a facking paddy too you caant"
     
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  2. RebelBhoy

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    <laugh>

    Jesus, you are painting some picture here Med Dog, a tiny Unionist enclave literally surrounded by Nationalists from the Short Strand. It must be awful for them.
     
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    No
     
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  4. Medro

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    No it wasn't, I was simply highlighting the fact that it isn't a case of people throwing rocks at each other.

    Here's an article from 2010 telling you that the attacks are still ongoing.


    UUP leader Sir Reg Empey brought his successor, Tom Elliott, to east Belfast last week to see first hand the problems facing residents of areas such as Cluan Place.

    The east Belfast MLA commented: “I thought it was important for Tom to see that while progress is being made, there is still a lot of work to be done in areas such as Cluan Place.

    “The problems we usually associate with interface areas are sectarian rioting and tension, but when you scratch the surface you find a whole host of social issues that urgently need to be addressed.

    “These interface areas in east Belfast have long been neglected, on our visit we saw windows boarded up that were broken months ago, the street is becoming overgrown with weeds and there is a real sense from the residents that they are being forgotten about,” added Sir Reg.

    “The people who live in the areas do so in unenviable conditions, they are coming under attack day and daily with missiles regularly being thrown over the “peace wall”. The stress of living in an interface area is bad enough without watching your street fall into such poor condition.”


    He said the residents had been working hard to stop trouble on the interface and to dampen tension in the area.

    “They have a hard fight ahead of them as a big problem they face is youths coming from outside the area and participating in trouble at the Wood

    stock Link/Mountpottinger Road and Bryson Street interfaces. When they get bored and go home it is then the residents who are left to deal with the aftermath.

    “I will continue to work with the residents of Cluan Place and also those who live in Madrid Street, Thistle Court and Pitt Park and hope we can improve their streets and restore their pride in their area,” he added.
     
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    I think you just described the recent history of Northern Ireland.
     
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    Nuke Ireland now.
     
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  7. Medro

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    What is there 8,000 people in Short Strand and what a dozen or so families in Cluan Place.
     
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    Sounds like 300...

     
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    I wonder why this is more prevalent around the time that Protestant supremacists march the streets.
     
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    Just re-house all the ****s in the middle east ... even the arabs n jews would think they were ****in nuts!
     
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  11. Medro

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    Or what about a story from last summer BillyBhoyBrit?

    A LOYALIST-SIDE mediator has appealed to the Sinn Fein lord mayor of Belfast to open dialogue over a troubled interface in the east of the city.


    Johnnie Jackson said something must be done to ease tensions at loyalist Cluan Place, where residents have reported regular sectarian attacks in which missiles are thrown over a peace wall from the nationalist side.

    Referring to the incidents, which have seen golf balls, snooker balls, industrial metal bolts and petrol bombs thrown over the divide, he said it is time communication channels between both sides were rebuilt.

    &#8220;Tensions have been rising progressively over the last two or three years and no one seems to want to do anything about it to resolve the tensions and move forward,&#8221; he said.

    &#8220;It&#8217;s got to the point now where people feel naturally that they need to have their areas defended by people who wouldn&#8217;t otherwise get involved.&#8221;

    Mr Jackson said this needs to be brought to the attention of Belfast lord mayor Niall O&#8217;Donnghaile &#8211; who lives in nearby Short Strand &#8211; before the situation &#8220;spirals out of control&#8221;.

    &#8220;What&#8217;s going to happen if this issue isn&#8217;t addressed is a child is going to be hit on the head by one of these missiles and killed, and someone will retaliate &#8211; be that the paramilitaries or even just a family member,&#8221; he said.

    &#8220;This will escalate &#8211; guns will be used and we&#8217;ll have the return of the Troubles. This is exactly what we want to avoid.&#8221;

    He said he wants to have a sit-down with Mr O&#8217;Donnghaile to consider ways to ease tensions.

    &#8220;I have contacted the lord mayor and the ball is in Sinn Fein&#8217;s court,&#8221; he said.

    Mr Jackson said he believes Sinn Fein is unaware of how serious the situation at the interface actually is.

    &#8220;I would give them the benefit of the doubt,&#8221; he said.

    &#8220;It&#8217;s not that they are turning a blind eye to the violence, they probably don&#8217;t know how bad it is.

    &#8220;I would appeal to the lord mayor to come back to me and talk to me directly. We need to open dialogue and stop this from spiralling out of control.&#8221;

    Mr O&#8217;Donnghaile acknowledged that there is trouble at &#8220;several interfaces&#8221; across the city, however he said the issue was an anti-social one as opposed to sectarian.

    He said: &#8220;In the main, these sporadic attacks are being carried out by anti-social elements within both communities.

    &#8220;There has been and is a lot of work being done within both communities and across the interface to bring the attacks to an end and this work needs to be supported and bolstered.&#8221;

    Mr O&#8217;Donnghaile would not confirm, however, whether he has received an invitation from Mr Jackson to meet or whether he would take him up on the offer.

    He added that residents should not &#8220;make the mistake&#8221; of comparing incidents at Cluan Place with rioting that took place at Short Strand last month in which gunshots were fired and a press photographer hit.

    &#8220;It was violent and it was sustained,&#8221; he said.

    &#8220;People&#8217;s lives were placed in danger and it was unacceptable.&#8221;

    While not comparing the last eight months of attacks on Cluan Place to the violence at Short Strand in June, Cluan Place community worker Maggie Hutton said residents&#8217; reports need to be taken seriously.

    &#8220;If one of those metal bolts were to hit a child, we could be talking attempted murder,&#8221; she explained.

    &#8220;It&#8217;s time the police and the politicians acknowledged that.&#8221;

    While Mr Jackson is keen to open dialogue with the nationalist side, Ms Hutton said talks will have to be carried out by mediators because residents &#8220;are not ready&#8221; for communication.

    &#8220;They have been put through too much and been ignored too long,&#8221; she said. &#8220;They don&#8217;t feel hatred towards the other side, they feel angry and let down.&#8221;
     
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  12. EDGE.

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    Says the liberal Protestant <doh>
     
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  13. Medro

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    Cluan Place gets attacked all year round BillyBhoyBrit.

    But go ahead, make excuses.
     
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    "You're avin a bubble me ol china!"
     
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    Lob...crash!!
     
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    Quieten down Wedgey, you know **** all about it.
     
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    Nae luck Paddy <doh>
     
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    "As a district, Short Strand is literally stranded, a small island of green in a surrounding Orange ocean, the only sizeable Catholic enclave in predominantly Protestant east Belfast."

    Not quite.

    On one side, unionist East Belfast, the other sides, the Lagan and a motorway.

    "Literally stranded" apart from all the roads into the City Centre or on to the motorway. <doh>
     
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    Are you or are you not a liberal Protestant?
     
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