The "Mighty Juggernaut" thread

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As I understand it, the Man City arrangement was different as he was still under contract with Man City and loaned to Spurs. Because they were so desperate to get rid of him, they agreed to pay part of his wages whilst he was at Spurs (something like £40k I believe)

If however his contract has been terminated, then the severance package wouldn't necessarily be subject to the same rules. In essence, the club and his agent could negotiate any deal they want, seeing as he's not bound by club contract. If as is being reported, then this means he's being paid in full by Spurs, with the option for another club to pay a proportion of that £100k
City loaned him and then sold him to Spurs, while agreeing to pay a significant part of his wages, if reports are to be believed.
The rules have apparently changed about clubs being able to pay players that they don't own now, though.

You've still failed to address my point about any club agreeing to pay him anything.
If Spurs don't own him and can't control his registration, then why would the club signing him agree to any fee?
They could enter negotiations, fail to come to an agreement and pay the player nothing.

If there is a clause, then it must say something about payment amounts or it's pointless.
Either Spurs can pull the plug on any deal, which doesn't sound like a termination or there's an amount set for wages.
It wouldn't even surprise me if Adebayor gets some of it, to give him an incentive to sign up.
 
... If as is being reported, then this means he's being paid in full by Spurs, with the option for another club to pay a proportion of that £100k

How would the "other" club be bound by a contract that Ade has with Spurs?
 
City loaned him and then sold him to Spurs, while agreeing to pay a significant part of his wages, if reports are to be believed.
The rules have apparently changed about clubs being able to pay players that they don't own now, though.

You've still failed to address my point about any club agreeing to pay him anything.
If Spurs don't own him and can't control his registration, then why would the club signing him agree to any fee?
They could enter negotiations, fail to come to an agreement and pay the player nothing.

If there is a clause, then it must say something about payment amounts or it's pointless.
Either Spurs can pull the plug on any deal, which doesn't sound like a termination or there's an amount set for wages.
It wouldn't even surprise me if Adebayor gets some of it, to give him an incentive to sign up.

As I've said, it could quite easily have been stipulated in the severance deal, that any club signing him up would have to negotiate with Levy about how much of the £100k they pay. It doesn't matter about whether Spurs control his registration, it's all down to what legal documents were signed as part of the severance package.

If a club enter negotiations with him, fail to come to an agreement, then it would seem that it would default to the original agreement that Spurs continue to pay him in full until summer 2016

This is exactly what is being reported.

And I agree that it wouldn't surprise me if Adeybayor got a slice of any deal, he's shown that he's fairly mercenary in the past. According to 5 Live (which I think was a Telegraph reporter) Adeybayor has 'earned' £5m from clubs when he hasn't even been playing for them !
 
How would the "other" club be bound by a contract that Ade has with Spurs?

He doesn't have a contract with Spurs, it's been terminated. The reports are that as part of that termination, there has been a severance deal where Levy (the financial wizard) has agreed to pay him his wages in full £100k per week, double that of Harry Kane, until the summer of 2016, barring another club coming in during this window and signing him up, where presumably as part of that deal, they have to negotiate with Levy about how much of that £100k they pay.
 
As I've said, it could quite easily have been stipulated in the severance deal, that any club signing him up would have to negotiate with Levy about how much of the £100k they pay. It doesn't matter about whether Spurs control his registration, it's all down to what legal documents were signed as part of the severance package.

If a club enter negotiations with him, fail to come to an agreement, then it would seem that it would default to the original agreement that Spurs continue to pay him in full until summer 2016
Read that back and then face palm yourself into unconsciousness, please.

The agreement would literally give Spurs no ability to negotiate with the hypothetical club.
What would be the point in it?
 
Grow up will you. I posted a link to a story and you've had a little hissy fit about it, claiming it was rubbish and started blathering on about me needing to see a psychiatrist. When I've asked you for evidence of your claim that both the club and Adebayor have said this isn't the case, you haven't been able to.

It's YOU that needs to grow up, pal...
 
Read that back and then face palm yourself into unconsciousness, please.

The agreement would literally give Spurs no ability to negotiate with the hypothetical club.
What would be the point in it?

There's no point trying to debate with him, he's always right even when he's not - which is most of the time!..
 
Read that back and then face palm yourself into unconsciousness, please.

The agreement would literally give Spurs no ability to negotiate with the hypothetical club.
What would be the point in it?

I don't need to facepalm myself at all. Spurs could quite easily have stipulated that as part of Adebayor's severance, they will pay him £100k per week and that (as part of that deal) if he signs for another club, then that club have to negotiate with Levy.

That is what is being reported
 
There's no point trying to debate with him, he's always right even when he's not - which is most of the time!..
I'm just trying to work out if he can see the obvious flaw in what he's saying.
Is he just ignoring the ridiculousness of it or does he not see why it's ridiculous?
 
I don't need to facepalm myself at all. Spurs could quite easily have stipulated that as part of Adebayor's severance, they will pay him £100k per week and that (as part of that deal) if he signs for another club, then that club have to negotiate with Levy.

That is what is being reported
And it makes no sense whatsoever, does it? What does that tell you?
 
I'm just trying to work out if he can see the obvious flaw in what he's saying.
Is he just ignoring the ridiculousness of it or does he not see why it's ridiculous?

There is no flaw though, it all depends on what was agreed in that severance deal. It could quite easily have stipulated what is being reported, that should he sign for another club, then they (as part of that deal) have to negotiate with Levy about how much of that £100k they pay.
 
There is no flaw though, it all depends on what was agreed in that severance deal. It could quite easily have stipulated what is being reported, that should he sign for another club, then they (as part of that deal) have to negotiate with Levy about how much of that £100k they pay.
That would be like negotiating with you on a job offer for me.
The company would agree with me, phone you up and say that they didn't want to pay you anything and then put the phone down.
What would be the point in that clause?
 
And it makes no sense whatsoever, does it? What does that tell you?

Of course it makes sense. If Spurs were severing his contract and agreed to pay him £100k per week, then naturally they would find it attractive if somebody else met some of that amount.

They could quite easily draw that into the agreement that the terms of any other club signing him, mean that they have to negotiate with Levy about how much of that amount they pay.

Otherwise, as has been mentioned they could pay him a pittance, knowing that Spurs will pick up the the rest of the wages.
 
That would be like negotiating with you on a job offer for me.
The company would agree with me, phone you up and say that they didn't want to pay you anything and then put the phone down.
What would be the point in that clause?

If that were the scenario, then you don't get the job, simple.

It's the same with Adebayor, if the 'buying' club don't want to negotiate according the to the terms of the agreement, then they don't get the player.