The Massa Question

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does Mass astill belong in F1

  • yes

  • no


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I'm a "yes" to as I believe he could probably move team, he defiantly doesn't belong in the top half of the grid. The problem with being a Ferrari number 2 driver is that ever since the mid 90's it is usually the last competitive race seat you'll have, Rubens just got lucky with the Brawn.
 
f1talks on twitter says Massa has 10 races guaranteed this year.

http://twitter.com/#!/f1talks

Would it be less embarrassing and/or detrimental to his career for him to (e.g.) switch with Perez soon (after Malaysia or at the latest before Spain) and have the best part of a season to turn things around and maybe get some decent midfield results before the end of the year? If he can do it at all it'll take him a few races to get on terms with Kobayashi and to have a season getting trashed by Alonso and then by Kobayashi could be extremely demoralising.
 
10 races in which car?

Stefano Domenicali: "Hey Peter, want some cheap engines?"
Peter Sauber: "Er, sure. Cheap or free?"
Stefano Domenicali: "Cheap"
Peter Sauber: "How cheap?"
Stefano Domenicali: "Going to cost you one Perez and we can throw in a free Massa"
Peter Sauber:"....................................."
Stefano Domenicali: " Hello, Pete, still there?.............hmmmmm must have gone through a tunnel or some thing......."
 
Autosprint applies a comment by Alonso about the glass being half full (which he meant as "a positive basis from which to start") to the two drivers, with Alonso as the full half. As well as Perez, the article suggest Trulli as a potential replacement.
 
Would it be less embarrassing and/or detrimental to his career for him to (e.g.) switch with Perez soon (after Malaysia or at the latest before Spain) and have the best part of a season to turn things around and maybe get some decent midfield results before the end of the year? If he can do it at all it'll take him a few races to get on terms with Kobayashi and to have a season getting trashed by Alonso and then by Kobayashi could be extremely demoralising.

Putting him in the Sauber might do even more damage, but it might be the last chance he has, because honestly how many midfield teams will want him for 2013? He doesn't have much to lose by spending half a season at Sauber.

If Ferrari make do replace him, they should wait until the big update in Spain. Maybe the increased rear grip will put him back up to 0.5 off Alonso's pace. I don't think any other driver can get into the car mid-season and be within 0.5 of Alonso.
 
Gazzetta reiterate what Autospint said, but also names Sutil as a possible replacement.

On Wednesday, the authoritative daily La Gazzetta dello Sport said Ferrari is considering dropping a driver mid-season for the first time since Rene Arnoux in 1985.

The newspaper said Ferrari development driver Sergio Perez, who is currently at Sauber, is an option, as is the former Force India driver Adrian Sutil.
 
10 races in which car?

Stefano Domenicali: "Hey Peter, want some cheap engines?"
Peter Sauber: "Er, sure. Cheap or free?"
Stefano Domenicali: "Cheap"
Peter Sauber: "How cheap?"
Stefano Domenicali: "Going to cost you one Perez and we can throw in a free Massa"
Peter Sauber:"....................................."
Stefano Domenicali: " Hello, Pete, still there?.............hmmmmm must have gone through a tunnel or some thing......."

<laugh>

...
 
Sutil in a Ferrari

Stefano Domenicali: "Fernando, you're faster than Adrian in front of you in P12, we can get him to move over"
Fernando Alonso: " Thanks Stef.....oh wait, what's his drinks bottle made from?"
Stefano Domenicali: "Er glass I think"
Fernando Alonso: " It's ok, he can keep the position I'm liking P13......"
 
Stefano Domenicali: "Ciao Felipe, you're faster than Fernando in running over the gravel, we need you to show him 'ow you do dat"
Felipe: " Thanks Stef.....oh wait, you want me to hit the trap AGAIN??"
Stefano Domenicali: "exactly, either that or make Lewis smash into you again"
Felipe: " It's ok, Fernando is doing his own thing with the run-offs"
Stefano Domenicali: "I'm glad you mention running off, we wondered if you had thought about HRT'S offer for you?"
Felipe: " *&<) off!!!'
Stefano Domenicali: "The radio is **** again, BOX BOX Ciao"
 
&#8220;OK, Fernando, Adrian runs gayer than you. Can you confirm you understood that message?&#8221;
 
From the Thursday press conference in Malaysia:

Autosport said:
Q. (Andrea Cremonesi &#8211; La Gazzetta dello Sport) A pair of questions for Michael: you drove a lot for Ferrari. How do you explain the situation they are in now? You are very close to Felipe; what do you suggest to him at this very critical moment for him?

MS: First of all, concerning Felipe, if I look at all the winter testing I think it was very clear that the two drivers were very close together. If you look at the optimum lap time achieved in the Barcelona tests, it's again very close. So to see the big difference that we saw in Melbourne, I can only assume there must have been something not right for him. He's been around for so long. He's been fighting for the championship in 2009, he's always been up front so I don't see any reason why he should not be capable of doing so in the future. I trust he will do so, and that the team will do their utmost to give him the support that he needs. The first of your questions: there's no reason to speculate because I'm not inside so I don't know the details and there's no reason for me to comment.

Q. (Paolo Ianieri &#8211; La Gazzetta dello Sport) Sergio, there have been a few rumours these days of your name linked to Ferrari should Ferrari decide to replace Felipe. How do you take these rumours, and what do you think about them?

SP: Well, it's only the first race of the season so it's very early to speculate. I'm really focused with my team, with Sauber. I think we have a great car and there's nothing more that I can say, just focused on my team, to try to make as many points as possible because we have a very competitive car and I was to trying to make the most out of the car we have. Melbourne was a difficult weekend for me because I had the gearbox issue so I couldn't do a lap in qualifying so I qualified last and finished eighth. So it was a good race, and hopefully this weekend we can manage a good weekend. And as for the rumours&#8230; they are only rumours.

Ferrari have got Massa on a retraining programme.
 
It would be highly unusual to fire a driver after 2 races. I'd give him 8-9, if he doesn't improve sharpish, then throw Bianchi into the car.
 
Ferrari's test/reserve drivers are listed as:
  • Giancarlo Fisichella
  • Marc Gené
  • Davide Rigon

With Ferrari moaning about lack of Italian's in the sport wonder what the chances are of giving Rigon a shot? If Massa continues to be way off then Rigon wouldn't be much worse.
I'd probably say he's actually got more of a chance than Fisi strangely.
 
Ferrari's test/reserve drivers are listed as:
  • Giancarlo Fisichella
  • Marc Gené
  • Davide Rigon

With Ferrari moaning about lack of Italian's in the sport wonder what the chances are of giving Rigon a shot? If Massa continues to be way off then Rigon wouldn't be much worse.

It has to be Bianchi. He's on loan at FI, and could be recalled if Massa doesn't improve (he should improve, he couldn't be as bad as he was in oz)
 
It has to be Bianchi. He's on loan at FI, and could be recalled if Massa doesn't improve (he should improve, he couldn't be as bad as he was in oz)

Bianchi makes sense, it's just I get the sense Ferrari are falling out with him.



Why not give Luca Badoer a shot?

He probably needs a few more years before he's ready, one to watch for the future though! ;)