The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 20th October)

Leedsoflondon · Oct 21, 2021

Whitejock said: ↑

Roberts deserves a rant. The James comments are a wind-up, just like Wakey taught me.

I haven't commented too much this season, mainly because of my position. I place myself in the lonely optimist-realist spectrum, ever-hopeful. Few seem to share this with me, which is fair enough.

Despite how the season has gone, I have loved my football, and very much appreciate being in the PL, and what it brings. Most people seem to realise that amongst other things, it brings us into regular contact with very, very high quality squads, players and managers. That's a given. What's not a given is us conquering all of these teams in the PL, week-in, week-out. Yet so many seem to expect this. If we somehow do, it will be as uplifting & astonishing to celebrate as our promotion to the PL after so long in the doldrums. And much less likely in my lifetime, tbf. So I choose to appreciate the football, even if it is the opposition who are on top.

What so many forget is that we have opponents who also want to win, and have the right to play their hearts out. So when the likes of Southampton play out of their skin for the first time this season, the general assumption on here is that they played crap (!), but we were crapper. We rarely compliment a team who deservedly beat us. It's always our fault - never that an average team raised their game & deserved to win. Also, on this last particular occasion, we suffered a 0-1 defeat away from home. That was a decent result last time we were in the PL. Not now. We've got to win 5-0 every week, and be thoroughly entertaining for every second, or the whining starts building to a cacophony of abuse. Can't we just acknowledge that our opponents out-played us? I for one was delighted at how we kept the score-line so low. Looked like organised chaos, but the keyword is 'organised'. We were. But so were they, all round. It happens.

I haven't forgotten those 16 years. I never will. Even if we get hammered more regularly than I would like, I'd much rather be in the PL than competitive 'down there'.
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I think everyone would agree with you. It’s the fear of returning down there that is causing the angst.

Doc · Oct 21, 2021

Whitejock said: ↑

Roberts deserves a rant. The James comments are a wind-up, just like Wakey taught me.

I haven't commented too much this season, mainly because of my position. I place myself in the lonely optimist-realist spectrum, ever-hopeful. Few seem to share this with me, which is fair enough.

Despite how the season has gone, I have loved my football, and very much appreciate being in the PL, and what it brings. Most people seem to realise that amongst other things, it brings us into regular contact with very, very high quality squads, players and managers. That's a given. What's not a given is us conquering all of these teams in the PL, week-in, week-out. Yet so many seem to expect this. If we somehow do, it will be as uplifting & astonishing to celebrate as our promotion to the PL after so long in the doldrums. And much less likely in my lifetime, tbf. So I choose to appreciate the football, even if it is the opposition who are on top.

What so many forget is that we have opponents who also want to win, and have the right to play their hearts out. So when the likes of Southampton play out of their skin for the first time this season, the general assumption on here is that they played crap (!), but we were crapper. We rarely compliment a team who deservedly beat us. It's always our fault - never that an average team raised their game & deserved to win. Also, on this last particular occasion, we suffered a 0-1 defeat away from home. That was a decent result last time we were in the PL. Not now. We've got to win 5-0 every week, and be thoroughly entertaining for every second, or the whining starts building to a cacophony of abuse. Can't we just acknowledge that our opponents out-played us? I for one was delighted at how we kept the score-line so low. Looked like organised chaos, but the keyword is 'organised'. We were. But so were they, all round. It happens.

I haven't forgotten those 16 years. I never will. Even if we get hammered more regularly than I would like, I'd much rather be in the PL than competitive 'down there'.
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