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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wed 4th Sept)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Sep 4, 2019.

  1. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

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    Must have missed that comment Jammy. It seems to be brought up every season by people who have the luxury of either living in England/Leeds or people who have a bottomless pocket. Personally it used to wind me up, but I don't need to bleat on about the sacrifices I've made to support this club. I'm just glad I've a club to support and I'll keep travelling over until I'm either dead or physically can't. So to anyone who uses the plastic word, be it an opposition fan or worse still a fellow Leeds Utd fan, go and **** yourselves...<ok>
     
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  2. Jammy 07

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    Bit of passion Shaks, that's what we need more of on here.

    I'm just being honest...if Leeds hadn't been great in the 60/70's would I still have been a Leeds fan ?

    Would like to think so as I grew up in the city but I can't be certain.

    Loads of Man City fans now at my son's school...maybe they grew up listening to Mr Blue Sky and it's all subliminal ?
     
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  3. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    When football implodes and clubs are competing on a level playing field financially, when Leeds United are beating the currently rich owner dependant likes of Man City on a regular basis, those kids will revert to following Leeds United, claiming as they were born and raised in the area they are true fans, when in reality they are true plastics.
     
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  4. Ringo Lion

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    Exactly Chesh, look at Leeds with a manager who can't speak English, you're doing alright, once the players can understand him when he has learned the lingo there will be no stopping you<cheers>
     
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  5. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    I read your original response to me and to be honest was unsure if it was to spark debate or meant as an insult. For me, I was and still am really, the only one in my family that’s into football, the rest are all into rugby. My mate and dad were Leeds fans and took me along to watch them (west ham I think). Quite a few followed Leeds and as you say probably because they were a great team back then. Once you’ve gotten into a club you simply can’t change. If it was for “glory” that certainly ****ing backfired. Used to get to ER when I could when young but spent most of the time going to away games in and around London back in the days you could pay on the day.
    Played Saturday football for donkeys years but having my first kid at 38 and the second at 43 put paid to football. Your point is well made though, which is why I encouraged my boy to follow a London team so he could easily go with his mates, that’s why he’s a gooner.
     
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  6. Irishshako

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    :emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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  7. lifecheshirewhite

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    When I was a kid, lots said they supported Leeds, all swapped when times got hard, they are plastics, no matter where they are from, from people I've met, the majority of real loyal Leeds fans, seem to travel, a lot from Leeds become Rugby fans, when results and leagues go bad,not all but quite a lot all the same.
     
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  8. Whitejock

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    Not sure you made the right move there. Are you really so sure he'll prefer going to see Arse when he can go with his dad to see Leeds? I loved going to the football with my dad. Crap team he chose for me, but the time spent together was - and still is - cherished. It's never too late - look how Marcos successfully turned young Ben away from Arse & on to Leeds. Don't think either regretted it, or ever will. Marcos even got to watch Ben have his first beer in a pub, instead of imagining it in some back street. Many more great beery father & son days have been spent by them both. As I said, it's never too late! Have a wee word with Marcos to get his 'how to' book. :)
     
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  9. Whitejock

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    Damn! This made its way on to FB. Now the wife is going to find out that I'm on the ***s again ....

     
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  10. Jammy 07

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    OMG, I can see now how you might have construed a possible personal insult from my initial musings...I assure you non was intended.

    Personally, I love that we have fans from far and wide and I'm blessed that I can count some of them as VG friends.

    Because most of us are of a similar age I think we were all influenced by the Revie era, whether directly at that time or later en famille as it were.
     
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  11. Jammy 07

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    Sorry chesh but that is utter tosh.

    To suggest that somehow fans who travel from further field are somehow in the majority when it comes to loyalty is just delusional. Now I would wholeheartedly agree that those who have continued to support through incredibly lean times deserve a vast amount of credit and the ones who travel perhaps even more so, but I'm sure there were many who fell away for various reasons just as there were many locals who also stopped attending.

    Anyway we're ALAW and if supporters decide to take a break then it's up to the club to entice them back.

    The real super fans are people like Heidi and anyone else who's been home and away for decade after decade...we're just part timers in comparison.
     
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    None taken. I've read your posts and know you're not that type, enjoy reading your posts again <ok>
    Definitely the Revie days has created lie-long fans far and wide. Truth be known as I was also going to post to WJ, my boy started to lose interest in Arsenal last season and got much more interested in our promotion push watching the sky games with me. Gone back to them now we missed out the ****ing glory-hunting, plastic twat <laugh>
     
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  13. Irishshako

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    Get a DNA done:emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    You're right, I stayed with the torture that is being a Leeds United fan...... his dad is obviously someone FAR more sensible than me (or anyone on here come to that)
     
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  15. davy

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    My first though was “Gary, if it was Bielsa talking the players might just have made the effort to understand”.

    What an @rse, comparing himself to Bielsa when he’s still wet behind the ears.
     
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    Like millions of football fans throughout the country I followed my local team, in my case Leeds. Alas they didn't merit much support until King John arrived in the early 50s. At last we began to support the team with pride. Since that time we have seen some good Leeds teams. Revies team were the best but the current Bielsa team is playing some great football and the young players on the fringe suggest that we could be going players if Marcelo sticks with us.
     
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    I was brought up in Leeds in the glory days, we lived next to one of the players and had father/son kickabouts with his lad in the back garden. I wasn’t going to support any other side really. Had we been sh*t? Who knows.

    Moved to London in my 20’s... met a bunch of lads who I’m still mates with today ... London born and bred, several of them were Leeds fans. South Londoners don’t have much choice in terms of ‘local teams’ So they picked the side that was beating the wet spam, Spurs and gooners teams their class mates supported.

    Their initial choice was a plastic one, but all are still Leeds fans now.

    We’re all victims of circumstance.
     
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  18. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    I think the bottom line is once you start to follow a club and become emotionally involved, it makes your weekend when you win and hurts like hell now for the next two weeks when you lose, as true football fan you can't change affinity to the club. I get those that go all the time, unlike me, consider themselves to be true supporters, but then you read the likes of Shaks and can honestly you honestly question him as a supporter? I also understand that Leeds as a one city club it must seem odd when someone from there supports another club (Geoffrey Boycott, embodiment of Yorkshire supports the scum) but in London, there are less defined borders that make you support one team or another and it's always been a place that has always had people from nearly every city in the country living there so you can end up mates with a group of Leeds supporters and go along with them. Thing is it's a special club and our supporters / fans will always follow in the same psychotic way.
     
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  19. lifecheshirewhite

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    I'm going by people I've met at away games etc, the vast majority I've met aren't from Leeds, that's a fact of the people I've met,come to think of it, doesn't Heidi get a coach from outside Leeds.Sure there is many loyal fans from Leeds, just not met that many.
     
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  20. leeds60

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    I went in the 40.s
     
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