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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wed 4 Apr)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Apr 4, 2018.

  1. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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  2. ellandback

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  3. Whitejock

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    I think it's quite straightforward.

    I think a decision has been made re. Lasogga for next season (and I don't think we'll see him next year).

    Ekuban is currently singing for his supper (and like Eck, I have no idea if he's still be with us next season).
     
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  4. Aski

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    Exactly my point in my initial response to Ell.

    There was no way we were going to sign Lasogga, due to his wages, unless we had been promoted, and as we are neither competing for the playoffs nor battling relegation we may as well play someone who will probably be here next season, whether we think he deserves to be or not
     
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  5. Doc

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    41.5% of Leeds' total goals conceded across all competitions this season have originated from dead-ball situations (inc. throw-ins and penalties - 27/65).

    A ridiculous percentage. #LUFC

    Chuffed we have a set piece ciach wtf does he do
     
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  6. ristac

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    Not just defending, attacking too, our corners and set pieces are far worse this season.
     
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  7. Jammy 07

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    Chris Wood was a major factor in our defending last season. For every set piece, corner and throw in he defended the front post which allowed Pontus and Bartley to defend the centre.

    Not only did we f**k our season when we sold him we also sold him for peanuts to the first bidder. Wood should have gone to a club like Everton for about £30 million but we just couldn't wait to sell even though he had 2 years left on his contract. To me it was obvious that we should have refused to consider any offers until January where we would have either received a more substantial fee or have been in such a preferential position in the League that we could have still rebuffed all offers.

    This monumentally bad decision has ultimately set the club back years. The only way Radz can regain my faith is to hold Siaz and Pontus to their contracts and sign 3 quality additions. Failure to do so will mean he has learned nothing or he is indeed as bad as all the rest of our recent owners who were more worried about their short term bank balance rather than the glory of resurrecting our great club.

    The undoubted historical significance and reverence that would be bestowed upon the owner who succeeds in returning us back to the upper reaches of the British and European game seems to have become more of a hope rather than the burning ambition it should be.
     
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  8. LeedsLover

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    Heckythump is not the man for the job next season, or any other season. I don't think TC was the man for job either, but do believe we would've been doing a bit better had he stayed. Either way, neither of'em were the right man for job..........Bring back McCallister.

    Getting rid of Heckythump now and bringing in Mick McCarthy would be a good move. Mick has many better players at Leeds than he had at Ipswich, I don't think the owners of Ipswich wanted to go any where. I reckon Mick could bring out the best in our more better players, and get rid of / replace those that don't cut it, which is a quite a few.

    O'Kane was doing alright at start of season, he married that overweight model and he went down hill faster than Heckythump.

    Orta, who I believe is responsible for, or has something to do with bringing in coaches needs to go; he spent more money on the under 23's signings than he did the first team, what a joke he is.

    Radz, by all accounts is still inexperienced in football and this league, I don't wholey and solely blame him, but he's got to start opening his eyes and look to where the problems lay, ie, Orta and cheap coaches.
     
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  9. LeedsLover

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    With respects Jammy, have to disagree about Wood.

    When wood played for us we had low scoring games, and the majority of games were about catch up or allowing the opposition to draw or go on to win.

    You can't play to one man as a tactic, it takes other potential scorers out the game. When we started the season, we were scoring multiple goals with multiple scorers, we were sat at top of championship, then Lasogga arrived, that's when our problems started going down hill and the football began to suffer. I personally believe that's when TC changed tactics and instructed the players to play to Lasogga, same as Monk did with Wood. Playing to a single striker doesn't work for us, and it's certainly not working for other teams that are sat in the top 6. Heckythump is also playing to a single striker......like TC, Heckythump doesn't learn.

    Biggest tell tale sign under Monk was the 2 Preston games.

    First game Wood was completely marked out the game, to our good fortune, this allowed our other goal scorers to score multiple goals with multiple scorers.

    Second Preston game Wood didn't play, same again, this allowed our multiple scorers to score multiple goals, and as Ristac pointed out, the goal scorers were pretty much the same in both games.

    Wood played the first 3 league games of this season, he scored 1 in the 3-2 win over Bolton and the next 2 were both 0-0 draws, after he left, we won 5 games on trot with multiple goals and goal scorers, and only 2 scored against. Lasogga was in and things started going down hill at Millwall, TC didn't have the experience, but stubbornness, to recognise the problem, neither does Heckythump.........Wood did not fit in this team, nor does playing to a lone striker.

    I've gone on a bit Jammy, it's just a difference of opinion, not anything malicious...:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  10. ristac

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    I agree, our signings and preseason were all (I believe) built around 4-2-3-1 with Wood Leading the front line and this team with the addition of Wood, Green and Bartley would be in a much higher position.

    The second huge mistake was not snapping up Bartley and the third was Felix for Green although I understand that one, an aging Keeper who had a great season but was prone to an error, I felt we needed to improve (as did someone else) so we went with a younger Keeper with good distribution skills, it’s just someone forgot to check if he could do the other basic things you come to expect from a keeper.

    Rads just about has my faith still, cleared a pile of debts can be added to his pluses but for me we need a major overhaul at the top, Orta, PH and a few of the other coaches (set piece) needs to go and we bring in a decent traditional manager, not this DOF nonsense.
     
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  11. 1964white

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    Agree with much of that Rist

    We were three players away from a top-six side, had we pushed the boat out for the likes of Bartley, Wood & Green we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now

    A complete & utter shambles !
     
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