The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 18th February)

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Good Morning. It's Tuesday 18th February, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road.


    Cooper - Whites are in good shape mentally and physically

    Leeds Captain Liam Cooper believes the White are in good shape mentally and physically to see out their remaining 13 games and remains confident that Bielsa's men will finish strongly

    This comes after a recent interview with former player Pontus Jansson who claimed he was “mentally and physically tired” during last season’s run-in.

    “We always believe,” “We are confident in the way that we play, in our philosophy and we will keep going. This run-in is so important and we have got to be bang at it every week.

    “We’ve just got to keep chalking the games off. Approach them in the right way, stick to the way we play, and what will be at the end of the season will be.

    “We’ll be giving everything as we do every week with the intensity and fitness levels.”

    “The boys are so fit, we recover well,” he said. “We’ve got a week until the next game (at home to Reading) and we’ll prepare properly for that.

    This completely contradicts Coopers concerns he shared with former Striker Michael Bridges during Leeds pre season tour of Australia where Michael Bridges was quoted as saying

    I was speaking to a few of players, (including) Liam Cooper the captain… they just felt after Christmas they’d almost run out of energy, the way they’d been playing football,”

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    If you were Manager.....

    Which of the following players below would you show the back door to should Leeds get promoted?

    Which of the loanees apart from Ben White, if you had the option whether or not to sign them (regardless of any agreements Leeds have with their parent club) would you sign up / let go? The valuations are courtesy of transfermarkt.co.uk.

    If you had to trim 6 players from the squad, who would they be?

    Illan Meslier
    Goalkeeper
    Mar 2, 2000 (19)
    30.06.2020 £4.50m


    Kiko Casilla
    Goalkeeper
    Oct 2, 1986 (33) £2.70m


    Will Huffer
    Goalkeeper
    Oct 30, 1998 (21)
    30.06.2020 £90k


    Elia Caprile
    Goalkeeper
    Aug 25, 2001 (18)
    30.06.2023 £90k


    Liam Cooper
    Centre-Back
    Aug 30, 1991 (28)
    30.06.2024 £5.40m


    Gaetano Berardi
    Centre-Back
    Aug 21, 1988 (31)
    30.06.2020 £450k


    Ezgjan Alioski
    Left-Back
    Feb 12, 1992 (28)
    30.06.2021 £4.05m


    Barry Douglas
    Left-Back
    Sep 4, 1989 (30)
    30.06.2021 £3.15m


    Leif Davis
    Left-Back
    Jan 12, 2000 (20)
    30.06.2023 £90k


    Luke Ayling
    Right-Back
    Aug 25, 1991 (28)
    30.06.2023 £2.25m


    Stuart Dallas
    Right-Back
    Apr 19, 1991 (28)
    30.06.2023 £1.80m


    Kalvin Phillips
    Defensive Midfield
    Dec 2, 1995 (24)
    30.06.2024 £9.90m


    Jordan Stevens
    Defensive Midfield
    Mar 25, 2000 (19)
    30.06.2022 £90k


    Adam Forshaw
    Central Midfield
    Oct 8, 1991 (28)
    30.06.2022 £4.50m


    Mateusz Klich
    Central Midfield
    Jun 13, 1990 (29)
    30.06.2024 £2.25m


    Jamie Shackleton
    Central Midfield
    Oct 8, 1999 (20)
    30.06.2021 £2.25m


    Mateusz Bogusz
    Central Midfield
    Aug 22, 2001 (18)
    30.06.2021 £90k


    Jack Harrison
    Left Winger
    Nov 20, 1996 (23)
    31.05.2020 £3.60m


    Hélder Costa
    Right Winger
    Jan 12, 1994 (26)
    30.06.2020 £10.80m


    Pablo Hernández
    Right Winger
    Apr 11, 1985 (34)
    30.06.2022 £1.80m


    Ian Poveda
    Right Winger
    Feb 9, 2000 (20)
    30.06.2024 -


    Jean-Kévin Augustin
    Centre-Forward
    Jun 16, 1997 (22)
    30.06.2020 £12.60m


    Patrick Bamford
    Centre-Forward
    Sep 5, 1993 (26)
    30.06.2022 £5.40m


    Tyler Roberts
    Centre-Forward
    Jan 12, 1999 (21)
    30.06.2022 £3.60m

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  2. Eireleeds1

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    Morning all. Scuttery day here. Personally don't want to jinx things by discussing the "P" word
     
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  3. ristac

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    Morning all....

    Who would you show the door to depends on too many factors, which division we are in, who is in charge, who owns us.

    For being either not good enough or too injury prone for me Kiko, Roberts, Forshaw, Douglas and Berardi all need to go and be replaced by better. Forshaw started the season well but he is far too injury prone.

    If we’re in the PL next season, I’d consider replacing Alioski and Pablo, age isn’t on Pablos side, Alioski I don’t believe would be good enough in the PL
     
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  4. Emu

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    6 players! That's nearly half the squad!

    Ok.... if I HAD to...

    Casilla.
    Douglas. (Injuries)
    Forshaw (injuries)
    Roberts (injuries)
    Bamford.
    Berardi.

    I might keep Bamford and Berardi as squad players. Forshaw too if his hip is ok.
     
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  5. Norwayleedsforever

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    Good morning all:emoticon-0148-yes:

    6 players you say. That is easy

    Huffer
    Berardi
    Douglas
    Dallas
    Forshaw
    Bamford
     
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  6. FORZA LEEDS

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    Morning all,

    When looking at the squad and who to get rid of (if promoted) it must be remembered that the Bielsa ethos is the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts, so whilst the players look pretty average, together playing as a team they're capable of consistently producing outstanding football.

    So on that basis I'm struggling to think of 6. 4 I'd get rid of would be:

    Casilla
    Huffer
    Douglas
    Forshaw
     
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    You'd keep Casilla? <yikes>
     
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  8. ellandback

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    If Cooper hadn't had such a long contract, would anyone think about ditching him?
     
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  9. milkyboy

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    I wouldn't show my back door to any of them - but each to their own
     
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  10. Emu

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    I've never been a big fan of Cooper. He always has that one big mistake in him but he tends to do it at the worst time!

    He has won me over in Bielsas team though so I have left him alone. He is going well again this year.

    Pontus and even Bartley are way ahead of him still imo. Although everytime I see Bartley he seems to be scoring at the wrong end!
     
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  11. milkyboy

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    he spelt it dallas
     
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  12. LeedsLover

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    I'm use ithe P WORD most days <ale>:emoticon-0136-giggl

    Did you have a dodgy tikka masala Eire:cheesy:
     
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  14. LeedsLover

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    The great Lev Yashin, best keeper in world of his era.

    He had just about everything considering how heavy ball was and the boots were toe pokers.

    I had 2 heros as a young keeper, Yashin and Gordon Banks.

     
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  15. Emu

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    Got nowt on Nigel Martyn!
     
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    Different eras Emu.
     
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    That's why it's a generation thing. I always liked David Harvey and for a non Leeds Utd player Pat Jennings...<ok> Nidge was very good as well though.<ok>
     
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  18. ristac

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    Jennings was a great keeper
     
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    I've always liked him Elland even when he was prone to mistakes, would he be good enough for the Prem. I don't see why not..<ok>
    I don't listen to tittle tattle with ex players and as soon as they use the word quoted I feel its a lie. I'm not going say who should be ditched as we still have to get to the Prem and I feel its a bit disrespectful to them as they are still playing for us. But that's just me Elland, its a good question though.<ok>
     
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    and a nice bloke apparently. I remember seeing on match of the day him catching the ball with one hand, he also scored a goal as well.<ok>
     
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