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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 10th November)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Nov 10, 2020.

  1. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

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    I thought Wakey was the sarky one on here. Turns out I'm wrong.:grin:
    I'm not talking about you London...:grin:
     
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  2. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Me neither. I’ve said that before the palace game <ok> difficult to enjoy watching Leeds losing too, whatever division
     
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  3. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

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    I don't expect us to win every game Eire, but if we do lose, don't let it be from technology<wah>
     
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  4. Doc

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    The problem with VAR is that we use it differently t anyone else and indeed have changed the handball rule and the offside rule at the same time. This is stupid and wrong because football has a governing body and the rules of the game are the same all around the world, but seemingly not in England now. Fifa overrule EuAFA who overrule the Prem League but so far have said nothing. Bamford's goal under VAR Italy would be an obvious goal so needs sorting out.
    Fifa were the first to bring in goalkeeper rules for penalties not long ago and using VAR we saw the stupidity of penalties being retaken nearly every time, so they had to relax it slightly and only retake when the keeper had obviously moved off his line. The Prem were out of step with VAR last season and are now looking silly again. Sort it
     
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  5. Whitejock

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    Hadn't realised that we use VAR differently.

    So in the rest of the world, they use a tool called VAR to help them apply the rules fairly.

    And yet in the UK, we change the rules to accommodate the VAR tool.

    You really couldn't make it up. <doh>
     
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  6. Jammy 07

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    Some countries are still trying to apply a modicum of common sense in certain areas. We are most definitely not, the aim in the PL is to make all decisions the same with absolutely no grey areas. It stems from the perhaps noble intention of trying to make the games unscrupulously fair. Unfortunately it ends up with farcical decisions like on Saturday. The game is not intended to be ajudicated by computers using artificial intelligence, it's a high speed contact sport that results in the referee having to make hundreds of both minor and major decisions each match.

    Var was sold to us an aid to the referee on the pitch and to eliminate the obvious errors. That's clearly not happening in the PL as the big game changing decisions are being robotically reviewed in super slow motion and then being presented back to the onfield referee as something that is clear and obvious. The game is played by humans and it's intended to be refereed by humans in real time, as such clear and obvious errors of judgement should be apparent to the human eye, even when reviewed...if they are not then it's an acceptable error and should continue to be part of the game as it’s always been.
     
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  7. Eireleeds1

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    It’s a sad indication of where football is at when probably 70% of footie discussions here and everywhere else are about var
     
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  8. Doc

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    VAR has different so-called refs looking at it from a remote location near Hayes. The ref on duty sees one thing and the next game the same thing happens yet the ref takes a different view? It would help if the duty refs were taking the same obvious view VAR gave them, not “interpreting” rules

    the other laugh today is that the Wendies are interviewing Sol Campbell and Phol Neville <laugh>
     
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  9. Whitejock

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    I firmly believe that the person operating VAR is an extension of the tool. What I mean by this is that he should have absolutely no influence on a game other than to draw attention to something the ref has missed. The ref in the middle of the park is responsible for running the match & should be making all of the decisions. As simple as that.
     
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  10. 2 pennth

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    Bit of good news for a change
    Greg Clarke resigns as chairman of the FA
    I for one won’t shed any tears
     
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  11. FORZA LEEDS

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    Can’t say I know too much about him but I’ve seen the interview and he didn’t say anything that was that bad to cause such a fuss.

    Of course the usual suspects, the woke brigade, twats like Agbonlahor and the woman beater Collymore etc are ‘outraged’

    PC gone mad again <doh>
     
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    But he did head up an organisation that wasn’t fit for purpose, only my opinion of course
    Also in my opinion he lacked common sense he knows what the current climate is on race etc someone in that kind of position should know how to choose their words
     
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    Well I know how to choose my words and it’s all a load of bollocks :biggrin:
     
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    I think he would have got away with that
     
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    FTFY
     
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  16. 1964white

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    That was one of the two first division titles I was referring to :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  17. Doc

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    Young Alfie Mac scored 2 in the cup last night for Oldham
     
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  18. Eric Le Merde

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    Sorry I disagree. If Refs did their job then the game would run as it always has down. There are the Tinkler moments, everybody except the ref and linesman thought that a mistake had been made and so VAR then comes into play and the mistake is corrected, or not, there and then rather than still being brought up as an example, 50 years later.

     
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  19. Infidel

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    I was there that night, walked out of college, nearly lost my apprenticeship but had to go, Leeds fans were everywhere in and out of the ground, afterwards it was like being in Beirut, carnage, was glad to get home.
     
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  20. Gessa

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    Yeah, there are quite a few, Keys, Gray, Atkinson now Clarke who lose their jobs rightly or wrongly for saying inappropriate things but it's ok to be working in the media if you're a woman beating, dogging twat face.
     
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