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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thursday 9th February)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Feb 9, 2023.

  1. milkyboy

    milkyboy Well-Known Member

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    I read that as we could ask Heck I suppose. Now there's a thought... did well at Barnsley, never given a chance here, things didnt work out too well at Hibs... but stick him back in south yorkshire and he's doing a great job. Learnt his lessons and now on the up. But would he come <laugh>
     
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  2. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    Would I take Dyche over no manager at all? Yes.

    I'd have to reassess the situation once we get a look at the new guy.

    FWIW, and it's only my opinion, with our group of players, I think Dyche takes us down.
     
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  3. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    I believe that Corberan turned us down. That one is true enough.

    I'm very much in "wait and see" mode now.
     
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  4. Doc

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    Ristac is saying that Gallardo is inexperienced when it turns out he’s the most decorated coach in South America. Its like saying Ancelotti is inexperienced or Jose or Conte. Slot won Dutch coach of the year last season and has his club top of the league. De Zerbi at Brighton actually is inexperienced but wouldn’t turn my nose up at him.

    We just need a coach who can play a certain way due to the squad we have
     
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  5. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Gallardo, manager of Nacional for a season and River Plate for 6 seasons. That’s like being the coach of Rangers or Celtic, it’s hardly challenging. Zero experience managing in Europe yet alone the UK and you’ve got to be honest mate, you get excited at every link we have to South American coaches with the only knowledge on any of them being Wiki

    I’m not going to even go there comparing the CV of Gallardo to Ancelotti you surely said that in jest, it’s just laughable

    Arnie Slot (I actually have a good gut feeling about him) three seasons in a league with a team that’s again a three horse race season upon season, another who I’d fear was not ready for the PL

    Iraola doing well with a lesser team but he’s a huge candidate for right man at the right team at the right moment in time, again just lacks any real experience.

    The three of them have little experience, they have zero experience of English football, the two combined is a worrying gamble in my eyes but if you’d be happy with any of the three I’ll just remind you that you seemed equally as excited the Day we signed Jesse <ok>

    It goes without saying, if we get one I hope you’re enthusiastic approach to them is rewarded and they take us forward, I’ll support whoever gets the job until they screw up or show complete incompetence
     
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  6. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is and not workington town as that is the rugby league club.
     
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  7. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Gallardo :

    Andrea Radrizzani made the formal offer to Gallardo, but the former River Plate manager doesn’t want to rush to make a decision as yet, as he feels the language barrier is a major stumbling block to working properly in England.

    Gallardo doesn’t speak English, and he feels the need to learn the language first to establish a strong bond with the players, as well as to give instructions in training.

    Leeds haven’t ruled out the possibility of an interim manager.
     
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  8. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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  9. Doc

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    Trying to say that Ancelotti would have been deemed inexperienced to you when he first arrived in England as would all the other top managers. Your put down of South American football is amazing as you obviously think it’s crap. Any coach who can win the South American Champions League twice I suggest is pretty dam good mate. You say Slot could be ok but let’s face it in your terms the Dutch league is only slightly better than the SPL

    I think the experience we need is someone who can lead, have ideas and tactics, who is respected by his peers in the coaching industry, someone who wins matches and his teams score goals and don’t concede many. Someone who is doing good things in todays top leagues.
    de Zerbi is a good case in point as none of us had heard of him yet Brighton had him at the top of their list.
     
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  10. Irishshako

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    <laugh> not enough WJ. :grin:
     
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  11. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Ancelotti, when he came to England he had 14 years experience coaching Reggiana, Parma, Juventus, AC Milan, comparing his years at different clubs at those teams compared to Gallardo are worlds apart mate.

    Gallardo might prove to be great if we got him, joining us at this stage of the season, not knowing the PL and not knowing our players and not knowing a word of English, it’s a huge gamble I’m not comfortable with

    De Zerbi and his experience at different clubs once again sets him miles apart from the three we are supposedly interested in, he was only unemployed because of the war in Ukraine

    I didn’t say Slot would be okay, I said out the three, I have a gut feeling about him being the best option, I’d still not sign him though. At least out the three he would know the best position for Sinisterra if he were not as fragile as Forshaw

    https://spielverlagerung.com/2022/01/29/arnes-army-how-slot-is-regenerating-feyenoord/ Have a read about Arne Slot
     
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  12. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    Agree with you about Slot appearing to be the best option out of the three. And let’s face it he owes us one after managing to get £21m out of us for broken biscuit Sinisterra. Obviously a shrewd operator in the transfer market. Maybe he could sell Forshaw for £10m <whistle>

    The style of football his Feyenoord team play would seem to suit our players.

    No rush though imo as it’s difficult to see anyone getting a better performance out of the team than the three guys currently in temporary charge. But as a long term appointment I’d be happy with Slot coming in.
     
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  13. Leedsoflondon

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    I get what you’re saying about experience and the names being a gamble so I just don’t understand how you think we’re better off with a bloke that coached junior futsal and another that was a complete failure in the MLS based on one game. My view is that they’ll get found out pretty quickly and we’ll go down.
     
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  14. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    Better off waiting and getting the right man in even if it's in the summer. So just get a caretaker in who plays it tight to keep us up.
    Rads though likes to rush things ie fat kev. Dan james and the yank plank.
    I want a coach i can understand this time. Marcelo i had no chance and the krap marsch came out with was embarrassing.
     
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  15. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Your view is fine mate, I’m not saying that will happen and you keep missing the bit where I say we review it week be week.

    Yes I believe those three names are a gamble but two have turned us down, three if you count Corberan and Feyenord have said don’t bother asking.

    I don’t get the logic of let’s work down our list of 4th and 5th choices when we’ve only got first choice right once.

    Ayling, Wober, Cooper, Bamford, Harrison tons of experience. Aaronson, McKennie, Adams international team mates. Even the likes of Roca are not lacking in experience and Gnonto was originally brought to be coached by the U21 guy

    My point is, the players are not clueless, they should have enough about them to do okay.

    If a suitable coach is available we need to jump in, if not we need to wait, why risk getting another Jesse

    I’d bring in a fitness coach or two and just monitor it week on week until the right man was available
     
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    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    And again I get your logic but currently we’re being managed by people who don’t even make our list.
     
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  17. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Thats because those on it have said no, seriously what do you want the club to do, who would you put in charge, who would you approach

    Emu said don’t sack Jesse until we have someone, I get that, the board screwed up thinking those on the list would say yes.

    Give me a choice of how we are and continue the search or keep Jesse, I’d say as we were, Jesse was taking us down but it’s my opinion

    I don’t get the employ anyone who’s available approach
     
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  18. FORZA LEEDS

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    It is what it is. They got the team to produce probably the best performance of the season and earned an unlikely point. At the very least it brought the club some time and breathing space. Don’t knock them for having no experience of managing a top team in a top league. They did a great job and the players battled for them.

    Can’t ask for more really.
     
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    It’s a bit of a balls up lads it seems
     
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  20. wakeybreakyheart

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    How on Earth do you know the board have screwed up. You know exactly the same as the rest of us and that is diddly squat. I would rather they took their time and got the right man in. Show me your proof of whobturned us down. Please do not say Corberan as he already had a job and do you think he suddenly got a new contract out of thin air?.
     
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