According to transfer market Southampton spent £122m sold £45m Ipswich spent £152m sold zero Leicester £89m sold £47m Wolves spent £124m sold £116m Forest who’ve survived and pushed on Spent £106m sold £86m Wolves and Forest mainly overseas players in the £12m bracket, Leicester mainly on Oliver Skipp Southampton £78m on other teams unwanted PL players and free players like Charlie Taylor, Ryan Fraser, Adam Lallana Ipswich on virtually all Championship players. If we go up, we really shouldn’t be considering anyone not wanted by a PL team, leave the championship alone unless there is one exception possibly Solomon included. Learn our lesson too that signing players like Gyabi, Perkins and all the other £1m to £5m youngsters are really not worth the gamble, it’s too much forward planning. We’re going to have to shop in the Portuguese, German and South American or Asian leagues, spend wisely and hope our scouts are good enough On another note, the bottom three combined current form in the PL Played 18 Won 1 Drew 1 lost 16 Luton Burnley Sheff Utd hold the record as the three worse teams relegated with a combined total of 66 Current three this season are on 47
It’s at times like this we should also have a dislike button. It doesn’t feel right liking that one. Great post but contains a weeks negativity for me all in one place
If we go up it buys us time, I don’t want to become a yo-yo club, but each dip into the top flight enables you to become a good championship one. Southampton and Leicester look awful, their core is rotten with players too old, too expensive and not good enough. Ipswich should be challenging if they can get them back to playing as a team, their coach is a fans favourite but he has been tactically awful, signings have not been good enough, almost preparing for a bounce. We have that connection with Red Bull, I can’t help feel promotion this season is vital. I have a feeling we have some decent plans in place should we go up. I’d not be surprised in the slightest if we still replace Farke should we get promoted
Pretty sad state of affairs though in football when it’s crumbs like that promoted clubs have to cling to. Think this is my first ever season where I haven’t watched one pl game and only know two of the FA cup semi finalists
It’s a weird one and I put it down to our age group mate and us all clinging on to the past. I live in Cambridgeshire now, on the border of Peterborough in a lovely village, I’ve nothing to really complain about yet I allow score lines to disrupt my mood. I then watch Peterborough and Cambridge United supporters, some Norwich too just enjoying the football week to week, not caring about the dream of the PL just wanting to win more games than they lose in a season I often question why it seems so different supporting Leeds, it really is the hope that drains you. I think we probably believe deep down we have a right to be great again, decent history, single club city, huge support, it’s why so many other teams hate us. Even on the Southampton forum there are several gloating we’re crumbling, more excited by that prospect than their own miserable record and where does that get fixed
that's no good mate... you need to be able to spread your negativity across the week. I'm sure you'll manage
Morning all. Hope none of you are listening to talkSPORT. We’re getting trolled by that Gabby Agbonglahor and playing “Leeds are falling apart again”. As in the previous posts, why are opposing fans so fixated on us when we’re doing badly?
net spend £80m and £40m for southampton and leicester... just not enough if you don't have a core of PL ready players. Ipswich gave it a go, but were punching above their weight with league 1 players when they got promoted last year. Mowbray's £200m looks the minimum! TBH i think it's the sides that can adapt to survive that do better. Strong physical well organised sides that make themselves hard to beat and pick up points at home. That's what Frank did with Brentford... they played nice football in the champ, then played percentage football in the PL to survive. Sides that play open attractive football in the championship and look to repeat it just get done by sides who can do the same thing better, with faster better players in the PL. Once they start losing it's a habit and they can't scrap out ugly draws and 1-0 wins.
there's lots of leeds fans and they'll rise to the bait... that's why he does it... well... and because he's not a very likeable chap
Mowbray was right but under psr rules would a nett spend of 200m even be permitted even if our scrooges sanctioned it. Im not so sure it would. I think the pl have the rules nicely sewn up in the favour of the established clubs who can never realistically get relegated. Take scum and spuds. Worst seasons ever and yet a million miles above relegation mark. Compare their underage systems even to championship. Scum u-18 beating our lads 13-1 at the weekend
you're absolutely right that the rules favour those who already have a PL squad.. Forest splurged and took the penalties the following year. TBH they were damn lucky to survive that first season but they did. They're a good example of what i was talking about... they are nowehre near as good as their league position, but with Nuno they have a clear identity, rock solid defence and counter attacking style they've done amazingly well this year. It's difficult to survive but its not impossible
I’m not saying I don’t agree with any of that but one big difference… We’re talking Leeds fans, no way would we accept 3-4 season of surviving and mid table making up numbers, survive season one, mid table season two, we’d better be knocking on the top 6 season three. Maybe exaggerating a bit but we just seem to demand more, we want another title, we want that stolen European trophy. So many fans from other teams would accept 10th in the PL for 10 consecutive seasons if given the opportunity, I bet no Leeds fan would despite being in that finishing position (or better) maybe once in what, 25 years is it?
We have more than our fair share of entitled fans. Every team we face, they expect to win as they see us as being a bigger club. No other team is ever given credit for beating us, just simply blame it on Meslier, Farke etc etc
...but Bielsa can't do anything wrong despite failing in his first season with the highest wage bill and not building after the first season in the PL resulting in multiple thrashings.
Bielsa wasn't perfect, if he was he'd have won a load of silverware but when you see the standard of player Marsch accepted and called it team building, there was no way Bielsa would take that load of rubbish or similar if offered.
Oh we have a sense of entitlement alright, but not sure the analysing of defeat ia about entitlement. You like to blame the board for defeats... others blame players, others managers - but fans of all clubs analyse defeats and find someone/something to blame. Read on the Beeb that it's only a few seasons... 22/23... where all 3 promoted teams stayed up. Nobody thought Bournemouth, Fulham and Forest would be top half teams in a few years.
Aaronson is used as the prime example... but he was accepted by Bielsa and coming to Leeds anyway. Marsh brought in Adams who had a great world cup and is playing in a top half PL team, sold for a profit. Everyone's favourite burger muncher McKennie is a regular and playing well for Juve. Kristenson is playing well for the side 3rd in the Bundesligue, likely to be sold for small loss. Wober, likely to be moved on for small loss. The other signings were obviously Orta's that Marsh accepted. Sinisterra was quality but injury prone, sold for small profit. Rutter, sold for a profit. Gnonto worth way more than we paid form him. Roca has been a regular for Betis, 6th in La Liga.