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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 7th October)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Oct 7, 2019.

  1. OLOF

    OLOF Well-Known Member

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    BIelsa does
     
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  2. Infidel

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    Totally agree, but not only the fkg bent Ref’s but also that poor excuse of band of people who are all knob jockey’s called the FA
     
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  3. Irishshako

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    ****, we'll probably get a points deduction..:)
     
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  4. Irishshako

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    Welcome back xbpod, long time no see. How are you bud..<ok>
     
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    I don't think that's funny anymore, too much truth in that statement :mad:
     
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  6. 2 pennth

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    I'm getting quite good at *********************************************** interpretation :emoticon-0148-yes:<laugh>
     
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  7. OLOF

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    ****, **, "******* ** *****" ***** *****
     
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  8. Irishshako

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    <laugh> sorry:grin:
     
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  9. JonnyLosAngeles

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    Excerpt from the Laws of the Game 2019/20, Law 12:

    Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off.

    The following must be considered:
    • distance between the offence and the goal
    • general direction of the play
    • likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball
    . Location And number of defenders.


    Watching live, I opined to those around me that it looked like incidental , inadvertent contact and that while a free kick would probably be given if it happened in the middle of the pitch, to award a penalty, and thus give Nilwall a goal, was ridiculous. That said, if it is a penalty, then it must be a red card as it could not be a challenge with a reasonable Vance of winning the ball and he would have had a shot on goal with just the keeper to beat. Phillips was at least a step behind and no chance of challenging for the ball or blocking the shot.

    Just my opinion, of course.
     
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  10. wakeybreakyheart

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    <party>
     
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  11. xbpod

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    Yeah good thanks mate, hope all's well over the sea :emoticon-0167-beer:
     
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  12. milkyboy

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    “in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off.”

    Appreciate you’re a ref Jonny, and your interpretation seems correct given the rules stated - though I think there is an argument that Phillips (as he was goal side) was close enough - that bit is just a judgement call and I may have my lufc blinkers on.

    What’s your view on the rule. Seems ludicrous to me that even if it was an accidental coming together it’s still a red card. In this circumstance, the striker cut across Berardi and made it difficult to avoid him. I appreciate players often clip someone and try and make it look accidental... but this looked a genuine attempt to avoid contact. Is the law an ass?
     
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  13. ristac

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    It is crazy when you can have a handball in the area and say it was accidental or you can blindly ignore the blatant shirt pulling in the box by one and all at every set piece. Also the penalty not given to us, just how it was not given is baffling
     
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  14. Leedsoflondon

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    How he didn’t give us that penalty makes it worse for me and suggests blatant cheating. If it’s true that he is a known scum supporter and he has sent our players off the last four games he’s reffed us the club should put in writing that we don’t want him officiating anymore of our matches like the big boys do. Our management team are too nice and put up with too much crap from the EFL.
     
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  15. Irishshako

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    Yeah not too bad thanks...<ok>
     
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  16. JonnyLosAngeles

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    In my opinion, if there was contact, it is not sufficient to give the attacking team an almost certain goal and as a result have to send the defender off. At midfield, probably give a free kick for game control purposes.

    I really try to look at these things through a neutral eye, I.e., without bias in favor of Leeds. It doesn’t matter who did what, I have often thought we shouldn’t have gotten certain decisions. In this case I think it’s very harsh to award the penalty. To then not send Berardi off is just fudging it to make the decision less harsh. He had to go. Just my opinion of course.

    I don’t remember the Harrison incident, anyone have a link to a clip of it?
     
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  17. davy

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    Yup, welcome back mate. <ok>
     
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  18. milkyboy

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    ....I was querying the logic of a law that makes an accidental coming together an auto sending off, whereas a mistimed tackle isn’t
     
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  19. davy

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    Did Leeds appeal the card or not. I want to feckin know. <grr>

    How do we highlight blatant bias without challenging these decisions in public, and making the w*****s at the EFL look like the tw@ts they are?

    If we didn't, Radz needs to change the club name to Leeds Doormats.

    :emoticon-0169-dance
     
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    I'm sure that I read it somewhere, think it was the mirror and didn't someone post a tweet or whatever you call them from the club saying that they were going to appeal the red card.
     
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