The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 30th Sept)

Leedsoflondon · Oct 1, 2019

LeedsLover said: ↑

Here's Phillips stats,

5 yard passes = 32 per game......8 yard passes = 23 per game.....passes back to the passer = 18 per game....backwards passes....15 per game....sideways passes left and right = too many to count, off the scale..

Agreed we're having more possession cos Phillips is making more sideways, backwards and back to same player passes, if we had a player in stands behind goal Phillips would try and pass to him .....

Phillips don't need Klich or Forshaw cos he's got Dallas, White, Cooper, Kiko and the sidelines to pass too...

Seriously, if it came to value and impact on field, don't be surprised if most fans pick Klich and/or Forshaw over Phillips.

Bielsa can't drop him, A, he's got no one else to put in and B, Phillips has "play every game, including cup games and Tiddlywinks" clauses in his contract....

PHILLIPS, A HOLDING MIDFIELDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....We're losing the midfield again. He gets beat for pace, he passes long crosses to the fans sitting along sidelines or behind the opposite goal, he gives up when players go past him or dispossess him, he goes awol, can't read a game and he needs to take his corners from 6 yard box line. Only thing he's good at holding is his leg up so the ball can pass through it........I tell a lie, he's very good at holding his hands up and looking at other players after the balls gone past him into our goal.......Watch him during games, you'll see he gives up chasing or getting back quite a few times, he also gets caught out of position.

Let me give you some serious observations.

When the team is playing well, Phillips performances, same as Harrison and Bamford are masked, when we had a game like we did against Charlton Phillips performances become very visible, same as Harrison and Bamford. Ayling is the same when he pushes too far forward and can't get back to stop an opposing attack.

Now, you mentioned Bowyer played a certain way to force Phillips out the DM position (I don't believe that by the way)..........if that's the case, why did Phillips fall for it, and why couldn't he read it?

Other teams last season, and some this season played Phillips out the game, and some teams will in coming games.........why?

If he can be played out the game in this league so easily, what do you think they're going to do to him in Prem.......they'll tear him apart and leave him for dead.

Borrowed this from Infidels comments (not a dig at infidel but he observed)

.Philips had a job done on him and had a poor game!!! he had a poor game because he was not allowed into the game by Bowyer's tactics.

I think someone mentioned Jock said a similar thing............what does that tell you, what picture does it paint............is the excuse "Phillips had a job done on him, he wasn't allowed into the game cos of Bowyers tactics".........or does it show that "Phillips couldn't read the game, had no clue what was happening to him and didn't know how to combat it"...............does it also show what other teams do to him, and what the prem teams will do to him.

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Every player has a bad game. Kiko at fault for the goal.

ristac · Oct 1, 2019

LeedsLover said: ↑

Here's Phillips stats,

5 yard passes = 32 per game......8 yard passes = 23 per game.....passes back to the passer = 18 per game....backwards passes....15 per game....sideways passes left and right = too many to count, off the scale..

Agreed we're having more possession cos Phillips is making more sideways, backwards and back to same player passes, if we had a player in stands behind goal Phillips would try and pass to him .....

Phillips don't need Klich or Forshaw cos he's got Dallas, White, Cooper, Kiko and the sidelines to pass too...

Seriously, if it came to value and impact on field, don't be surprised if most fans pick Klich and/or Forshaw over Phillips.

Bielsa can't drop him, A, he's got no one else to put in and B, Phillips has "play every game, including cup games and Tiddlywinks" clauses in his contract....

PHILLIPS, A HOLDING MIDFIELDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....We're losing the midfield again. He gets beat for pace, he passes long crosses to the fans sitting along sidelines or behind the opposite goal, he gives up when players go past him or dispossess him, he goes awol, can't read a game and he needs to take his corners from 6 yard box line. Only thing he's good at holding is his leg up so the ball can pass through it........I tell a lie, he's very good at holding his hands up and looking at other players after the balls gone past him into our goal.......Watch him during games, you'll see he gives up chasing or getting back quite a few times, he also gets caught out of position.

Let me give you some serious observations.

When the team is playing well, Phillips performances, same as Harrison and Bamford are masked, when we had a game like we did against Charlton Phillips performances become very visible, same as Harrison and Bamford. Ayling is the same when he pushes too far forward and can't get back to stop an opposing attack.

Now, you mentioned Bowyer played a certain way to force Phillips out the DM position (I don't believe that by the way)..........if that's the case, why did Phillips fall for it, and why couldn't he read it?

Other teams last season, and some this season played Phillips out the game, and some teams will in coming games.........why?

If he can be played out the game in this league so easily, what do you think they're going to do to him in Prem.......they'll tear him apart and leave him for dead.

Borrowed this from Infidels comments (not a dig at infidel but he observed)

.Philips had a job done on him and had a poor game!!! he had a poor game because he was not allowed into the game by Bowyer's tactics.

I think someone mentioned Jock said a similar thing............what does that tell you, what picture does it paint............is the excuse "Phillips had a job done on him, he wasn't allowed into the game cos of Bowyers tactics".........or does it show that "Phillips couldn't read the game, had no clue what was happening to him and didn't know how to combat it"...............does it also show what other teams do to him, and what the prem teams will do to him.

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I’m not changing this into another Philips debate but I’m astonished you ask why did Phillips fall for it? When the opposition plays two up front Phillips is instructed by the coach to drop into a back three, he has zero choice, he is following the coaches instructions.

Nobody on here wants Phillips to be playing 90 minutes as a CB or even 45 minutes but when the opposition switches to two up front it’s his job as instructed by Bielsa and it’s a decision I wish Bielsa would not be so predictable in doing

FORZA LEEDS · Oct 1, 2019

ristac said: ↑

I’m not changing this into another Philips debate but I’m astonished you ask why did Phillips fall for it? When the opposition plays two up front Phillips is instructed by the coach to drop into a back three, he has zero choice, he is following the coaches instructions.

Nobody on here wants Phillips to be playing 90 minutes as a CB or even 45 minutes but when the opposition switches to two up front it’s his job as instructed by Bielsa and it’s a decision I wish Bielsa would not be so predictable in doing
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What happens if the opposition switch to three up front?

milkyboy · Oct 1, 2019

FORZA LEEDS said: ↑

What happens if the opposition switch to three up front?
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We go to 1 at the back to confuse them.

Have you not read bielsa’s Book? Jeez even fat frank own’s it (think he’s hoping the bleasly will read the big words to him one day)

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