If Billy needs help because of his circumstances that's fair enough and rightly should be supported. All past experiences seem to suggest him being on an internet forum isn't helping tbh. Even if he does it through no fault of his own (which I don't believe btw) he's ALWAYS going to come up against someone who'll pull him up on it. And then the whole ****e starts again.
I personally wouldn't want others discussing my personal issues whilst I was banned, let's show the bloke some respect here lads. If he wants to discuss his medical or personal background I'm sure there'll be plenty of people to offer support for a well liked (not by all ok) poster, when he chooses to bring it up. He's serving a very short ban, there's people been banned permanently for less. He'll be ok for another week. After the ban, this **** really doesn't need dredged up every 15 minutes, if people wanna be police then there's better ways to go about it, you might even get paid if you're good enough.
Calm down dear. You really are just looking for a fight. You don't ban people for having a differing opinion or rightly calling someone up on their bigotry. Or their derogatory remarks regarding the disabled. It's amazing that you have such sympathy for someone who has some condition, but you have no such sympathy for the disabled who he mocked. Strange that. If you were any sort of friend to him, you'd at least try and put him straight. Instead, you support and condone him. You are the worst friend anyone could have tbh. I hate doing this to you because I know it's just going to hurt you. I will try and ignore you where I think a reply is not warranted, but if you draw me into a response, I will be to the point. No swearing, no name-calling, but simply put you straight, and you're not going to like it Roger.
your not worth of a response, trying to make yourself look cool calm and educated, when we all know what you are, good night tulip
I'm not worth a response even though you've responded to every one of my posts and had a meltdown on each one. Yes do go have a lie down.
Absolute ****er that Bodger and an internet warrior to boot. I'd whoop his arse until its the same colour as his hat.
you certainly do have a way with words, Spurlock ha! Anyway, I'll leave the ignorant, narrow-minded bloke to his own devices. Lets see how much they really do like free speech, eh?
Some of us also have mental health problems and although we know our condition may explain actions, we know it doesn't excuse them. As somebody fully diagnosed with a multitude of mental health problems I can't murder somebody and expect to get away with it just because I have a condition and have suffered deep psychological trauma. I can't rape somebody, I can't steal, incite racial hate or attack the disabled just because i'm ****ing cuckoo and niether can Billy. People using mental health to excuse that **** makes my ****ing skin crawl. Billy made the comments, he stood by his comments, took the ban and at least has not tried to play the mental card like some of you lot. The funny thing is he committed the crime, he's serving his time and will be back with it behind him. There's no point in any of this. One decent post on here imo. Moving on to said post. Very good question, one that hasn't been answered I see. Maybe if you ask again the mod participating in the thread will see it this time and respond.
What's the point? I asked once and it was completely ignored, shouldn't have to ask again. Presume it'll just be the same 2 week ban and then people forget it ever happened, until the next time. (I won't forget, as some of the things said were insulting to me, but I chose not to air that for all to see and let it go). Also, when Billy's back, he's more then man enough to speak for himself IMO, he doesn't need others to do it for him like some on here.
You expect people to give Billy a bye based a hardship you can't possibly expect them be able to know about or measure, then a few posts later you're blindly writing off other peoples potential hardship you can't possibly know anything about. You've called him an internet warrior in the name of protecting an internet warrior. You're arguments are shot to bits imo. Makes this place look worse than it already does because it makes us look stupid in addition to the bigoted, racist, anti religious and sexist names we've already been branded with. Billy was banned fair and square and his doing the time he knew was coming when he made the choice not to avoid it. You can't say fairer than that. This thread is so unnecessary and has backfired on you.
Absolutely fair comment Bri . Human nature being what it is people will not back down especially when it is beyond them and the sensitivities of some subjects are not for the likes of this place.
Transparency and clarity. Non existent on here mate. Billy took the ban as a matter of choice. This whole thread is ****ing stupid. Folk fighting against a punishment he choose himself.
I'm not keen on bans either Gil. Never have been. Hate them. Even when people spout vile despicable crap. And I too wish we had a better way of dealing with things. It would be great if people could exhibit self restraint and not let rip or react to wumming but **** happens, we're all human, and everyone has their limits. Some are just more flexible than others. We, as mod's can't be on here 24/7 to mediate between disputes and feuds, or be there to defuse melt downs before they occur or during. I have a 14 hour day, door to door, 5 days a week and my weekends are even busier. Grandpops can't be on here as much as he wants to be at the minute and Marcus is running 2 jobs, his full time job and his gigging. To expect any more of us is both ridiculous and futile. And has been mentioned many times, we'd all happily stand down if others would step up to the plate. Getting back to your point, I agree, bans are a blunt weapon. It doesn't solve problems, it just defers them and the causes of the ban will almost surely reassert themselves again sooner or later. Billy has his issues and as you know, I've had my own issues with Billy. But I'm not on here to say that Billy can or can't post on here. That's not within my jurisdiction. Maybe we need some other way of self-managing our own forum, as a group, ourselves. From my perspective, all regular posters suggestions are appreciated.
Should this thread be pulled cos were now starting to argue amongst ourselves. I have nothing against anybody on here and dont want this to end up descending into farce and name calling.
I'm sure I said above that if he does it again he'll be banned again. I'm happy to keep banning anyone who keeps making the same stupid mistake. It's not for me to say three strikes and your out though. Like I said, that's not within my jurisdiction. Personally, I'll say that I'll be more cognisant of racist comments and more reactive when I see them in the future. At the same time, if I see deliberate baiting going on, from other posters trying to get a rise out of anyone in order to get a ban on anyone on here, then I'll deal with that in the same way. At the same time, I'll repeat for everyone on here, the mod's can't be on here 24/7. So a personal request from me to all of you. When anyone goes off on a racist rant, and you see it, don't ignore it or pretend you didn't see it. Express your outrage, anger or offence on the thread. All of you.
Mate, it's nice that people can understand his situation(which is why i've never thrown it in his face even though he uses my plight against me constantly) It really is. But it can go too far to the point people start doing him a disservice trying do him a service. My real mates are conditioned to stop me in me in my tracks and tell me I'm out of order when I'm being out of order and tell me it serves me right when it's too late, other acquaintances, one I really liked, who'd let me escalate then try and tell people "well what do you accept, he's mental" they've fallen by the wayside because they're not good for me. He needs his friends to be friends and if they can, keep him from escalating and not make excuses for him, not play on his disability to aid him with a get out clause, it's encouraging the disability to flourish in a way, not sit back let him crack on and say but that's billy, he's been through this and that. You know he's been through this and that when others don't, so surely the real service to him is to not make excuses and state he was out of order and help to challenge a negative trait his mental is bringing out instead of just accepting it as a given. More of us 'loonies' need putting in our place when we're out of order.
