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The Law and Coronavirus

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by bcfcredandwhite, Apr 8, 2020.

  1. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    I was there from the start at Yate till the last one out [1 of 4 out the door ]
     
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  2. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    You could have an accident whilst driving to the shop or a key worker could have an accident on the way to work , neither of these acts is against the rules , we are allowed to drive when necessary but nowhe
    went for interview at yate, started at beginning of Aztec, were you subbie or work for IEC?
     
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  3. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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  4. AshtonRed

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  5. AshtonRed

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    I know you , me too for around 4 years at Aztec until the end. I’m pretty sure I know exactly who you are , obviously won’t say on here though .
     
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  6. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Would that have been the 2 bosses (married couple ), you and maybe I.M)?
     
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  7. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    Must admit, not sure if it's right or not, but I think I remember Matt Hancock saying he didn't see a problem if you took your dog a very short distance in a car..I think it was on Question Time a couple of weeks ago....Personally I don't really see the problem so long as it's not taking the piss.....I think the two special words are "COMMON SENSE"..
     
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  8. AshtonRed

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    Totally agree, in a nutshell.
     
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  9. Redprintt

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    I agree, early on various members of government said it was OK to go for a drive to exercise with or without a dog.
    As I said earlier, I used to take Mrs R out to the Mendips, sit in the car with a flask of coffee. Not anymore.
    The advice from government now is no driving to exercise.
    I wish to goodness you were right, disabled Mrs R hasn't been out since.
     
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  10. AshtonRed

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    Where is this specific advice from the government saying you can’t drive to walk or exercise? , if it exists i apologise , I’ve not seen it . My understanding is there is no specific advice , just that we aren’t supposed to drive to beaches , beauty spots, etc and exercise in groups, it’s the group bit that is the main issue and people driving miles, but there’s nothing to say you can’t drive a few miles in order to exercise in an area on your own , it’s about using common sense.
     
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  11. Redprintt

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    I wish you were right Ashton, so does Mrs R.
    Try Google with your question.
    And I apologise to you if I've got it wrong.
     
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  12. wizered

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    There some advice given here ~
    https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle...s-lockdown-uk-driving-rules-explained-2519644

    A pamphlet handed out to drivers by the Avon and Somerset Police states: “You are entitled to exercise once daily. This should be by walking, running or cycling from your home address. You should not be driving to a location away from home to carry this out.”

    Various police forces’ have stated that members of the public should not be driving somewhere with the intent of doing exercise or walking their dog – and with new powers being granted to police to arrest those who ignore lockdown rules, you should follow the rules from the police.

    You should not be driving to a separate location to exercise or walk your dog.
     
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  13. Redprintt

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    Thanks Wiz.
     
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  14. johngalleyfan2

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    that was pre lock down ..when it was fairly flexible ... a friend used to shop in Shepton and come back via wells -----> Priddy ----> home [ 6 miles further on ]
     
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  15. AshtonRed

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    That’s the police interpretation so probably best to stick to it. It isn’t government rules though , I don’t live in the Avon & Somerset police area and we’ve had no such pamflet . Police forces have also been criticised, even by government for overstepping the Mark, this may well be one of those cases, as far as I know there is no rule against it .
     
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    Please tell me he looks like this, otherwise I’m going to really upset.


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    Omg ROD I didn’t realise you knew him too.
     
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  18. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    ...... and now this:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...der-lockdown-rules-police-advised-coronavirus
     
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  19. johngalleyfan2

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    AS I POSTED EARLIER the CPS where this originated from is far from perfect with how it conducts its business .. they have a rule which they express and a court action may follow … if their expressed rule does not fit with the jury CPS loses .. often when the prosecutor informs the CPS it could lose due to ???? case is abandoned or does not proceed.
    At the present CPS is like a breeze which is blowing when you are sat around the camp fire … you move to get out of the smoke only to find you should have stayed put etc etc… .. confusion.. is the key word .. if everybody [ 000's ] drove to Snowdon and it took them 4 hours to go and down with a 30 minute break for dinner! they could be away from home for 4 1/2 hours … but what of the traffic and what about keeping moving on the walk ..and what about not doing the same regularly for exercise!
     
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  20. oneforthebristolcity

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    Just for the sake of clarification, here are those UK lockdown rules, one more time:
    1. You MUST NOT leave the house for any reason, but if you have a reason, you can leave the house.
    2. Masks are useless at protecting you against the virus, but you may have to wear one because it can save lives, but they may not work, but they may be mandatory, but maybe not.
    3. Shops are closed, except those shops that are open.
    4. You must not go to work but you can get another job and go to work.
    5. You should not go to the Doctor's or to the hospital unless you have to go there, unless you are too poorly to go there.
    6. This virus can kill people, but don’t be scared of it. It can only kill those people who are vulnerable or those people who are not vulnerable. It’s possible to contain and control it, sometimes, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.
    7. Gloves won't help, but they can still help so wear them sometimes, or not.
    8. STAY HOME, but it's important to go out.
    9. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarkets, but there are many things missing. Sometimes you won’t need loo rolls but you should buy some just in case you need some.
    10. The virus has no effect on children except those children it affects.
    11. Animals are not affected, but there was a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…
    12. Stay 2 metres away from tigers (see point 11).
    13. You will have many symptoms if you get the virus, but you can also get symptoms without getting the virus, get the virus without having any symptoms or be contagious without having symptoms, or be non contagious with symptoms...it's a sort of lucky/unlucky dip.
    14. To help protect yourself you should eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand as it's better not to go to the shops, unless you need toilet roll or a fence panel.
    15. It's important to get fresh air but don't go to parks but go for a walk. But don’t sit down, except if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant or if you’re not old or pregnant but need to sit down. If you do sit down don’t eat your picnic, unless you've had a long walk, which you are/aren't allowed to do if you're old or pregnant.
    16. Don’t visit old people but you have to take care of the old people and bring them food and medication.
    17. If you are sick, you can go out when you are better but anyone else in your household can’t go out when you are better unless they need to go out.
    18. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house. These deliveries are safe. But groceries you bring back to your house have to be decontaminated outside for 3 hours including frozen pizza.
    19. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but they can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.
    20. You are safe if you maintain the safe social distance when out but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.
    21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours ... or four hours...or six hours... I mean days, not hours. But it needs a damp environment. Or a cold environment that is warm and dry... in the air, as long as the air is not plastic.
    22. Schools are closed so you need to home educate your children, unless you can send them to school because you’re not at home. If you are at home you can home educate your children using various portals and virtual class rooms, unless you have poor internet, or more than one child and only one computer, or you are working from home. Baking cakes can be considered maths, science or art. If you are home educating you can include household chores within their education. If you are home educating you can start drinking at 10am.
    23. If you are not home educating children you can also start drinking at 10am.
    24. The number of corona related deaths will be announced daily but we don't know how many people are infected as they are only testing those who are almost dead to find out if that's what they will die of. The people who die of corona who aren’t counted, won’t or will be counted but maybe not.
    25. We should stay in locked down until the virus stops infecting people but it will only stop infecting people if we all get infected so it’s important we get infected and some don’t get infected.
    26. You can join your neighbours for a street party and turn your music up for an outside disco and your neighbours won’t call the police. People in another street are allowed to call the police about your music whilst also having a party which you are allowed to call the police about.
    27. No business will go down due to Coronavirus except those businesses that will go down due to Coronavirus.
    Hope that makes things clearer for you :emoticon-0127-lipss:emoticon-0127-lipss:emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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