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I wonder why you are so worked up that anyone might be unimpressed by a nice gesture? Is it imperative that we are? I am not calling the boy a twat or insulting him, merely stating that it is a rather unimpressive act in the grand scheme and that I will save my praise for those who actually put themselves out a bit more. He earns 120,000 a week. A week. It is a nice, tiny, gesture, but nothing impressive.

 

I could fully agree with your comment, until you mention how much he earns. It is not relevant in terms of whether the gesture is kind, nice or not. I don't understand why the expectations of a rich person should be higher. He is just a young fella who did something.

Take out the salary mention and the word 'tiny' and I get your opinion. Mention the money and I see a hint of something else.

If Dan Harding did the exact same thing, would that be a nicer gesture simply because he earns 2 and 6 at EASTLEIGH?

 

This is exactly the kind of thing that I referred to earlier.

 

Of course it would. It is more of a sacrifice to Harding. Nice is nice, but there are scales of how admirable an act is. The poor man, on minimum wage, who sacrifices his own cash to buy a homeless person a sandwich is far more impressive than either. We are talking about whether one should be impressed, not whether the act is nice.

However, I am more impressed by actual time given. For example. I was massively impressed by Ings taking a girl to her school prom. No finance in that. Just a Lovely thing to do. Shirt for a kid who already has shirt? No. Not impressive.

 

Sounds like he was over generous. They clearly didn't deserve anything.

 

Yep. I saw it. My missus was in the middle of telling me something important and I lost concentration and it caused an argument. **** you twat beard.

 

Exactly. Charity isn't something you should make a big song and dance about. I believe there was even a bit in the New Testament about that. Nor is it something you do to make other people think highly of you.

I realise that. My point is, if it had been a player with no connection to Southampton, there's a good chance no-one would have posted about it. If that's the case, it would suggest it wasn't that impressive an altruistic act.

 

Well I'm glad we all categorically KNOW that the only reason Shaw did this was to receive praise....I mean, it couldn't just be because he thought it might be a nice thing to do, could it.....

Dear oh dear...

 

My first paragraph is speaking generally, not in relation to this particular event.

 

Let's think about it - how do we even know this has happened? Did Shaw tweet "LADZ, look wot I did for the LOLZ innit". Or did the guy that had been the recipient of the gesture make it public?

I don't know but I'd put a fair bet on it being the latter...

 

It was definitely the latter.

 

There you go.

Okay, can we all just agree that it was a nice gesture? Can we do that?

 

And to avoid any final doubt...

 

All I'll say on this is does everything have to be for the greater good of humanity?

Well done Luke, nice gesture, he probably made that kid's year. It doesn't matter if the kid didn't "need" the shirt, or there are more needy people that could have been helped instead. What matters is that a professional footballer took the time out to make one of his fans happy, and that's all it needs to be. It was just a small gesture, but kind nonetheless.
I earn a decent wage, but I wouldn't accept somebody else thinking I should give twice as much to charity as someone earning half my wage just because I have more spare cash. First and foremost it would be none of their business, and secondly because I don't trust anybody who thinks they know how the world's wealth should be distributed.

Saints fans tend to keep an eye on what ex Saints are up to, and so this was spotted in social media and passed around in recognition that Luke had been a decent chap and made a fan happy. I haven't seen anyone asking for Luke to get a knighthood for it, just commenting on the nice gesture.

 

Nail. Head.

 

For the record, I wasn't saying it wasn't a nice gesture, just that spacedsaint had a point.

 

By contrast, Agüero has changed from the #16 to the #10 - after three years of wearing #16.

He's said to post your shirt to the club, he'll personally autograph it to you, and then post it back.

 

Bastard.

 

I don't think spacedsaint is criticising Shaw or saying that anyone should be doing anything. As far as I can see he's saying that some acts of generosity/kindness are more impressive than others and that this one ranks quite low on the generosity/kindness scale. I tend to agree.

 

Fair enough. I think the point kinda got lost in the disagreement somewhere along the way. All good.