The General Election Countdown Thread

[The Raging Oxter]

And I would suspect the yes campaign to reveal all costs of independence , set up costs etc and the financial plans up front for people to make a full informed decision.

We got neither from yes or no ... Either no answer, wild guesses , delays or lies.

I do believe the currency issue was the biggest problem for the Yes camp. It created too much uncertainly and allowed the No camp to spread panic over the issue.

 

[Null]

With that comment showing that you do not understand the concept of Independence. It;s about making those decisions for yourself not a package deal.

Based on the fact the snp would be running an independent Scotland then I'd expect them to reveal their estimates and plans up front.

So , your saying we should just take a leap in the dark based on no information ... Aye ok.

 

[Null]

I do believe the currency issue was the biggest problem for the Yes camp. It created too much uncertainly and allowed the No camp to spread panic over the issue.

Totally agree.

If we were guaranteed the pound with the same value then it would probably have been yes ...

 

[Spurf]

Based on the fact the snp would be running an independent Scotland then I'd expect them to reveal their estimates and plans up front.

So , your saying we should just take a leap in the dark based on no information ... Aye ok.

Of course we should it's CALLED INDEPENDENCE what part of that do you not understand. You or anybody else can have no idea who would govern an Independent Scotland because we would have a new set of parties. We also cannot KNOW what the policies would be until they are offered and Scotland votes.

You are voting for the right for Scotland to make these decisions, just like a grown up.

 

[Null]

Of course we should it's CALLED INDEPENDENCE what part of that do you not understand. You or anybody else can have no idea who would govern an Independent Scotland because we would have a new set of parties. We also cannot KNOW what the policies would be until they are offered and Scotland votes.

You are voting for the right for Scotland to make these decisions, just like a grown up.

So ... No one would have an idea of the costs behind setting up an independent Scotland and how that might effect spending in an independent Scotland and were to vote to make our own decisions that might mean being financially ****ed or financially well off ?

Just take a leap of faith ?

 

[Null]

Ps the parties would no doubt stay the same.

Snp n labour vying to control a Scottish goverment.

 

[Null]

The question should have been an av vote on

Full independence

Or

Devo max

But as St says , Scotland will be independent within 10 to 15 years so time to move on from September 2014.


We'll get full fiscal autonomy then next step will be independence ... A more natural progression than a leap in the dark.

 

[Spurf]

So ... No one would have an idea of the costs behind setting up an independent Scotland and how that might effect spending in an independent Scotland and were to vote to make our own decisions that might mean being financially ****ed or financially well off ?

Just take a leap of faith ?

No pud the figures are there in You GOV if you care to check. Scotland would have more finance available as an Independent nation than it has as part of the UK. That fact is buried by the right wing media of course but you can check all this for yourself. The question of how they are spent is and will be unknown until Scotland is Independent and deciding.

I can tell though that it cannot be as bad as the 1.4 TRILLION debt the UK has saddle itself with and then voted AGAIN for the party that raised that two fold.

 

[Null]

No pud the figures are there in You GOV if you care to check. Scotland would have more finance available as an Independent nation than it has as part of the UK. That fact is buried by the right wing media of course but you can check all this for yourself. The question of how they are spent is and will be unknown until Scotland is Independent and deciding.

I can tell though that it cannot be as bad as the 1.4 TRILLION debt the UK has saddle itself with and then voted AGAIN for the party that raised that two fold.

That is my one sticking point in this vote ... Renewing trident in full !

 

[Girvan Loyal 1690]

Scotland did vote yes , or at least the Scots did. I don't remember ever being convinced YES would win I HOPED Yes would win which is different. But YES will win it's just a matter of time. I am not here to be listened to just here to balance a few comments.

Piss off you stinking *****

 

[Spurf]

Piss off you stinking *****

Did something die around here? The smell is awful.

 

[ManDingo 20"/20"]

It was very, very likely to happen last year according to some

Maybe for the mentalists.

I always expected a 70/30 split to be honest. Maybe 35% at a push.

 

[ManDingo 20"/20"]

And I would suspect the yes campaign to reveal all costs of independence , set up costs etc and the financial plans up front for people to make a full informed decision.

We got neither from yes or no ... Either no answer, wild guesses , delays or lies.

Agreed.

There is not enough clarity behind Scotlands finances. Every calculation politicians seem to use exlcudes one thing, or something else (cut and paste to your political leaning) and we're expected to make an calculated judgement on it.

We're subsidised by the rUK - Then prove it through complete accounts, not ones that exclude oil revenue (or anything else)

We're good enough to go it alone at current standards - Then prove it through complete accounts, ones that don't exclude higher per head spending (or anything else)

I reckon we probably can go alone and still keep up a decent standard of living. I mainly base this on the fact that many other countries our size do though. Nothing any of these **** nuggets have ever said gives clarity. Only perspective, mainly theirs.

 

[pompeymeowth]

I thought we had a full on Mod bundle there for a while.

 

[ManDingo 20"/20"]

That is my one sticking point in this vote ... Renewing trident in full !

What for keeping it, scraping it or libdemmin' it?

Personally I'm of the belief that if you place the ****ing subs in England, Wales or NI. Give it time to sink in (geddit) with the local population and then see how happy they are about it then. Well, maybe not NI. You'd end up giving the IRA nuclear ambitions.

 

[ManDingo 20"/20"]

Russia official: Scotland referendum was rigged
Posted at11:08
Here's an interesting take on the election success of the Scottish Nationalist Party. According to Russia's top electoral official, it gives evidence that the independence referendum was rigged.

"It confirms our position, that the outcome of the independence referendum in Scotland was a total falsification," Vladimir Churov, head of the Central Electoral Commission, told the Tass news agency. The election results, he said, "show that the SNP, which fought for a yes in the referendum, won far more votes now than it did then".

"We doubted that the referendum had been organised cleanly and we had observers there," Churov continued. He felt that the scale of the SNP's success in Scotland "gives further cause to examine the referendum".

And you all said they wanted to invade us. They just want to be our pals.

<jockmissilecrisis>

 

[Patience]

wHIT abowt r oyl ladz

 

[pompeymeowth]

wHIT abowt r oyl ladz

Christ what fone are you using, a Nokia 6110?

 

[Null]

What for keeping it, scraping it or libdemmin' it?

Personally I'm of the belief that if you place the ****ing subs in England, Wales or NI. Give it time to sink in (geddit) with the local population and then see how happy they are about it then. Well, maybe not NI. You'd end up giving the IRA nuclear ambitions.

Scraping it ... We don't need it.

Agreed , move it to Wales !

 

[Null]

And you all said they wanted to invade us. They just want to be our pals.

<jockmissilecrisis>

Aw because salmon said Putin was a good ****.