The gayest band ever

There is no doubt in my mind that you only like unpopular bands, i'm basing this opinion solely on the fact that you like to come on these boards and shout pointless drivel to be the least popular person

 

Also see Plan B. Not quite the same. But his songs are commercial, yet have hints of his old stuff in it. He even admitted to turning to pop to become noticed.

 

No because people don't make a living or gain fans because of who they support.

 

I don't just like bands because they're unpopular so i can be different from people that like popular music.

I love Michael Jackson, the most popular performer ever lived, and one of the most talented, because the things he did were ****ing outstanding.

 

A bands purpose isn't to make a living, or it shouldn't be. It should be to reach out to people, make something original.
Not to make money.

What do we all hate Andy Carroll for? For leaving us for a bigger wage!

 

Having been in a band for 5 years writing and playing our own music I can tell you that it’s not easy to write the songs. Each song written took talent and creativity.

There is none more critical of music sounding ‘samey’ then the band members themselves.

Each and every song written has a certain style to it in terms of musical ability and necessity to re-iterate a point you want to get across; be it raising voice, shouting, double time, distortion. The song is created first in emotion and then sculpted later to refine the way that emotion is expressed.

Sometimes you simply begin to veer towards a style that you think suits you and you still enjoy playing but at the same time you pay attention to the crowds who watch you to get their reaction because if the A&R guy in the audience thinks your music is good but the crowds are non-existent or disinterested you will never get a chance to record.

We changed musical direction twice in 5 years and each time it was based on how our crowd reacted to the style we adapted. We dropped the thrashing guitars gradually from the new songs and then went away from industrial punk to a more refined style where not all instruments were in competition to be heard but each instrument had it’s time and place to comes through.

Never once were we accused by our following of ‘selling out’ though our music had certainly changed from the first gig to the last and during that time we played to bigger and bigger crowds. We evolved and challenged ourselves to do it differently and better.

 

was never really impressed with Wacko, only song i liked was black or white

anyway, i just don't believe you tash, i think you get off on being the outsider

 

Tash, bands change and evolve. Most artists try to do something different every album because they know that the current album has to sound a bit different or it will be labelled as a re-hash of the previous. Just because the band suddenly becomes popular doesn't mean they have sold out. They have just had the break they need to get on with their musical career. Don't read too much into it.

If an obscure band remains obscure for long it will split up, that is almost a certainty.

 

Good point there, personally I don't hate Carroll anymore, but I thought most hated him because of all his I want to stay forever rubbish? And because he went sideways not upwards? Nobody could begrudge him if he left for Chelsea or Man Utd.

If a band changes it could be just to try something new, and attempt to be original, or it could be for success, everybody wants to be successful, nothing is original. There is nothing wrong with changing to try and be a success.

 

I didn't say it didn't work, it's just 99% of the time someone gets called for it they may not have. They probably just changed direction.

So many of these post's i agree with, i'm just not very good at iterating a point!

 

If you had read what i've said, you would see that i don't think bands sell out jst because they become popular. I can't even be bothered with this anymore. It's just a cycle of the same thigns coming back to me.

"Popular bands aren't sell outs"

"Each music takes creativity in its own way".

I just thought i'd like you all know, Coldplay, one of the bands that recently won the rock album of the year award, have been sued by a very talented musician Joe Satriani. Their song "viva la vida", probably one of the most
popular songs of the last few years, was a rip off. Just thought i'd mention it to any cold play fans They won an award and then admitted they were plagarists.

 

Tash you cannot compare Carroll to a struggling musician. Carroll on £30k/week would have earnt more in the next year than the average working UK resident would in their entire working lifetime. Struggling musicians are in most cases living in or close to poverty in comparison.

Try telling a musician who has been making the same music for years and is now in his mid to late twenties, with a wife, rent to pay and possibly kids to support that he has to keep to the same old musical formula rather than try something different in the hope that it might prove more successful and pay his bills. Seriously you need to get off you high horse and get some realism into your life.

 

This.

Well said.

 

Joe Satriani case: On 14 September 2009, the case was dismissed by the California Central District Court.

Yeah Viva La Vida has been accused of Plagiarism a fair few times. Just shows further that nothing is original and it doesn't take originality to sell or become popular. Wasn't proven as a rip off either, a number of bands claim it was a 'rip off'. It wasn't, as agreed in court.

 

This, exactly this. Have some rep!

 

Tash what a pathetic analogy, in no way is selling out to fund underground music production in any way shape or form like someone murdering someone. You really do come across petulant at times on here mate.
The point I was making is if you've heard any of their non-commercial music, you'd be very surprised at how "underground" it is, it'll never be popular in the charts or gain worldwide acclaim (except in the right circles), but they would have never been able to afford the studio time, equipment & so on (vintage synthesisers such as the MS-20 are tens of thousands of pounds or a TR-808 drum machine is £2,000 to buy second hand from a collector) nor have the production skills and know how without having made the crap commercial music.

Like it or lump it the commercial and the underground are intrinsically linked and feed from each other - both monetarily and inspiration wise.

 

Yes, ok if you were struggling and the only way you could make a living was to make music that was popular, then it's acceptable, but most of the bands that make these changes to their style, aren't necessarily rolling in money, but they have more than enough to get by when they do it.

And no the Carroll example was a good example. 30k for a footballer isn't that much, but what he had in terms of the legendary number nine shirt, his home town loving him, is priceless. Apparently, he thought that an extra 50k a week was worth more than being a toon legend.

And that's what sellout bands do. They think making quality music isn't as good as the millions of dollars they could potentially earn.

So if you're a band that's struggling to pay the rent then fine, but if you've got enough to live a decent life, and make quality music at the same time, then you shouldn't value the chance to be stinking rich and on top of the pops over the chance to actually have quality fans and make good music.

 

BTW, cheers Tash! I was listening to Sum41 (who, if anything, have done the opposate of selling out. Less popular now than when they did Fat Lip and In Too Deep) but i've put on Asking Alexandria, ****ing awesome!

 

At times what hes sometime okay

Whats that alexandra burke song dont let me start without you. The backing track is definatly from a summer hit from the 90s cant remember it tho

 

PUT THIS IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT ha