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The Final table 2011-2012 - in my humble opinion

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by safcrealist, Sep 1, 2011.

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  1. Chappaz

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    I didn't know it was possible to be wrong so many times in one post. Only you my boy. Only you.
     
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  2. Cest Advocaat

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    Okay?

    What was the score at your place last year?
    What was the score at our place?
    Who finished highest in the league last year?
    Did we have over 10 full squad players out for the last 10 games of the season including our 2 top strikers?
    Since last season, we have lost NO players we didn’t want to and have brought in 7 proven EPL players (including 2 that have more medals than our two clubs put together) and one of the countries hottest properties for 8m.
    You on the other hand have sold Enrique, Barton and Nolan and recruited 5 or 6 untested EPL players.

    Which bit is wrong so many times actually?

    Are you really that thick?

    PS - If things are that okay over at Sid James, then why are rent-a-mob planning to protest in front of the SKY TV camera's AGAIN, whilst we are very much NOT planning such a move. Don’t you think that the country has had enough of the self indulgent halfwits up at NE1, with their misspelled banners and inaudible dim interviewees, to last a lifetime?

    No-one gives a flying **** about your hapless club, apart from your own clueless morons who will be in the streets of doomcastle again this week.

    “SACK THE BORED”:emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  3. mitchthemakem

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    Chappaz thats the final table atm 3 straight wins can get you in the top 6 3 defeats and your in the bottom 3.
    Im not saying we are going to fly up the league but i am still confident of 10th or above and im still confident your going to be below us
     
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  4. Chappaz

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    Did not read a single word. I hope you had fun wasting your time writing that <laugh>

    Yes, I know. However, so far, everything has pointed to Newcastle performing reasonably well, so I find this assumption that we're going to struggle very peculiar. It's essentially based on nothing.

    And I really don't care about 'losing our best players' to be honest. That was then, this is now. I'd rather people forgot about that and looked only at our existing team to see whether it has the quality to do well. Krul, Colo, STaylor, Tiote, Cabaye have all been performing brilliantly. Simpson, Jonas, Best and so on have been comfortably mid-table standard. We also have the likes of Marveaux, Ba, Ben Arfa and even Santon who are full of potential but still yet to fully develop and adapt to the new season.

    If someone could just remove their Sunderland-tinted spectacles for one second, they would see that we have ample quality to get a comfortable finish in the table this year, and the three games we've had so far have just added weight to that.
     
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  5. Cest Advocaat

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    Didnt read a single word of truth then.

    Mags never do like the truth. it gets in the way of their fairy-tales about them being a big club and one of the darlings of English football. 2 urban myths that never were but which have been put to the sword forever.

    PS - I love wasting my time abusing scrawny little tits like you kidda.
     
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  6. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Pop over to the Blackpool board somtime and have a word with their supporters chump. They had an even better start than you and were top 6 at Christmas. How did they get on by May though?

    Mmmmmmmm. You really are a thick ****er aren't you?
     
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  7. Chappaz

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    That's a good point. There was another team too who were very high up the table by the New Year, but were fearful of relegation towards the end of the season.

    Ahh, who was it again? Begins with an S.
     
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    Only 2!!! I wouldn't swap any of them for any of our strikers (including our reserves)
     
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  9. Chappaz

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    Ahh I almost took you seriously there until you mentioned your reserve players. Best has scored 8 goals in his last 13 apps and you wouldn't take him or Ba over ANY of your reserve team strikers?

    Stop talking ****e please.
     
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    Indeed - You've played badly 3 times and won 2 and drawn 1 - more by good luck/poor defending/finishing rather than playing well.

    Keep playing like you have and you will struggle chappaz - I have no SAFC tinted specs when I talk about Newcastle - I don't know anything about majority of your players but know the ones you've lost (30 goals from last season - 18 from Carroll and 12 from Nolan I believe) is a big gap to fill - and Cabaye looked dirty and very poor against us - but Barton ran the midfield - I think you'll stay up but I think you'll be around 13th or 14th. The season is 38 games long not 3
     
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    Yeah but he has a lot less (no) potential than our reserves chappaz - totally serious - What I meant was I wouldn't want him in our reserve side - as our reserves are doing fine and have no problems scoring goals what would be the point - but wouldn't want him in our first team either as Gyan Sessegnon, Bendtner, Wickham are all better players and Ji has more potential than him (can't say if Ji's better as I haven't seen enough but he's only 20) - does that qualify my statement
     
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  12. Cest Advocaat

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    Stoke? Mmmm?

    We were flying at Christmas; lost our top striker (and a 20+ a season man not a 6ft 4 10 goal plank) and then had a horrendous injury run, including all our centre halves and our two remaining strikers, which led us to slump badly. We were forced to scrape the squad and the reserves/youth squad, just to put out a team for the last 7 or 8 games but we still finished above you. We were better then and you beat us and drew with us. We are better now and you have beaten us? Its over the WHOLE season that matters most for top club status, not 3 or 4 games.

    We now have a full squad to choose from and have lost none of the players we wanted to keep. We have also added proven EPL players and a young starlet. In the transfer deadline, we added a young lad who has a 1 in 3.5 scoring ratio, 5 years EPL and Champions League experience to bolster our front line. Gyan, Bendtner, Wickham and Won are a decent 4 and in the first 2 we can boast the best forward line between the 2 clubs.

    You on the other hand have lost 3 KEY players. Your club IS weaker until the new foreign lads prove themselves over 20 or 30 games not 3 or 4 and thus, it is quite right to say we ARE more likely to finish higher after 38 games.

    PS- there are going to be riots and protests against your club this week from your own fans. There will be none in Sunderland? Doesn&#8217;t that tell you anything? Its you that wears the blinkers sin these conversations chump, not us.
     
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  13. Cest Advocaat

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    How many has he scored for your lot then this season? Would that be 0 in 3? There is no guarantee he will PLAY 15 games never mind score 15 goals you daft lad. He has a knee weaker than your lame arguments on here. He is one bad tackle away from the end of his career.
     
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    Excellent, more pointless squabbling

    please log in to view this image
     
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  15. simonbh7

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    So Bruce is doing a brilliant job then!!

    Glad to see that you are giving him your full support.<doh>
     
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  16. Cest Advocaat

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    You miss the point. Bruce as manager has devided opinion without a doubt but come the Chelsea game, we will be a united voice behind him and the team and thats without the need to parade our neanderthals around the streets of our city for the Sky TV cameras every year.

    AND we will finish higher come May. Its a guarantee.
     
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    Anyone else slightly turned on by this photo?


    Anyone...............Lol
     
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  18. MrRAWhite

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    I don't know: I would probably pay money to watch that scrap..<laugh>
     
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  19. marcusblackcat

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    You don;t have to ask twice - it's about as much as I can get away with at work!!!
     
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  20. Chappaz

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    Gyan and Sessegnon are better players, yes.

    Bendtner? I don't know yet. Best has scored 8 in his last 13 apps, Bendtner has scored 2 in his last 18 apps. All I care about is whether players can score goals. Let's wait and see if Bendtner can actually do that on a decent level before we comment on whether he's 'better' than Best.

    Wickham. Best got 8 in 13, Wickham hasn't even had a proper shot in the EPL yet, so you cannot possibly say that Wickham is better than Best. Maybe he will be in time, but right now, no one can say.

    As for Ji, how can you say Wickham is better, and then say you can't comment on Ji because he hasn't played enough? <doh>


    More ****e I didn't even read.
     
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