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The Face Of Hull...

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Barchullona, Oct 27, 2016.

  1. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Some Hull folk are very thin-skinned for a rough, tough working port. At least on here. Commenting on the incompetence of elected officials and the rather parochial attitudes of some residents is not slagging Hull off.
    Yes, I support City but that doesn't mean I have to agree with everyone says how marvellous Hull is, there is nothing like it, it is uniquetc...Hull Whites and Hull Reds aren't gushing in their praise of Leeds or Liverpool.
    I used to work with a load of local born Leeds "supporters". I used to tell them it was hilarious to listen to them mocking Wessies all week at work and them then spending a load of time and money to sit amongst thousands of them.
     
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  2. Steven Toast

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    Arrogant was exactly how it came across. You're an academic man, right? So it worked out for you. Presumably your degree was in one of the sciences? Not many of those are vocational, I have a friend with a degree in physics currently working at Papa's Fish and Chips.

    People should be encouraged to go to higher education for the right reasons, but not just for getting a job, it's also to do with interest, furthering a knowledge base or overcoming a challenge. These so called 'mickey mouse' degrees, as you call them, might not hold much in the way of a job prospect, but my first degree was in Creative Writing and Media studies and I wouldn't have done anything else. I had offers to do many other things, such as Surveying, ICT and business studies but I opted against it.
     
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  3. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    You've just made my point perfectly for me - it's better for your life to live where you are because that's where your job is. I distinctly never said people live where they'd like to live in a perfect scenario, they live where is best for their life at that time be that work, family, friends, affordability, city, country whatever.

    Exactly - so it's better for their lives at that time. You're 100% agreeing with what I said.

    Do people actually read what I say or do they just guess? This is 2 examples of people accusing me of talking bollocks but they're actually agreeing with me!
     
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  4. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Creative Writing and Media Studies are more easy options. They might be useful for very, very few jobs. But all the good journalists and broadcasters did it by ability and working their way up, not because they do CreativevWriting and think it will be entitle them to a well paid job.

    My local supermarkets were full of contemporaries of my lads' mates with degrees. The ones who left and didn't go to university are in many cases doing well, in construction, plumbing, scaffolding etc.

    BTW, you can further a knowledge base or overcome a challenge without spending years at university and then complaining about the cost.
     
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  5. Charlie1

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    Give it rest Castro. You're beyond tedious now. Like an old man objecting to anyone or anything just because. I'm sure you're my Dad.
     
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  6. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    I am sure I am not.
     
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  7. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

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    You're dodging the question Castro. Why dò you feel the need to slate Hull so much?

    It's a more than resasonable question.
     
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  8. Leon T Trout AFC

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    Out of interest, do you have a degree and if so, was it tied to your profession?
     
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  9. Charlie1

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    Then stop acting like everyone's miserable old cantankerous father
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    If that's what you meant, then your post was poorly written and that's why people thought you were saying something else.

    Some don't 'choose' to live anywhere, they're simply forced to live there due to their circumstances.
     
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  11. Steven Toast

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    The arrogance in your original post stemmed from the word 'useful'. That's a relative term because it depends what the purpose of undertaking the degree was. It might look like wasted time to you, but so what? Who are you? People are free to undertake whatever course they see fit and if they choose to pursue a degree in something you deem to be insignificant, then maybe every degree entry should go through you first? Should everybody line up and justify their choice to you?

    Uni to me wasn't just about the course, it was to be my first taste of independence, without the reliance of my parents and a chance to start anew in a city I'd never even been to (prior to the open day anyway). How can you knock somebody who has made the decision to continue their education, simply because you don't think the course is worthwhile? Hark at you, Professor Hawking, some would consider Physics a pointless profession.

    The cost is massively high and that's wrong. But even so, people shouldn't be discouraged from going and the understanding of what it costs is clearly laid out to people before they go.

    EDIT: Actually, on the point about leaving school and becoming a bricklayer or a plumber, many of my friends did just that and for the first 2 years enjoyed success ahead of me. However, they're not in a profession, they're in a job, massive difference.
     
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  12. Walter Sobchak

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    Yeah he did a PHD in "Everything was better 50 years ago" at "Bah!" university. Taught by the famous scholar Dr Ima Kerr-Mudgen.
     
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    It is exactly what I meant and how is it poorly written to say 'The sole reason is because he thinks its better for his life. That's the only reason anyone chooses to live anywhere.' If only I was a writer for a living, eh? And in this country I cant think of any situation, other than being *imprisoned, where somebody hasn't made a choice to live where they do. If it's for work - its a choice, if its to be near family - its a choice, if its for the kids school - its a choice, if its for affordability - it's a choice, if it's for health reasons - it's a choice, if you inherited a property - its a choice....

    *even if you're imprisoned you chose to commit a crime (unless you were wrongly convicted).

    Actually - if you're in social housing and the council shift you that's not a choice, unless you'd rather choose to be homeless.
     
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  14. Barchullona

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    The cost is irrelevant. America, where it is very expensive to go to university has a far higher percentage of students going to university than France where there isn't any cost. But there again, why should someone go off and spend a few years doing something which will be of no use for free.
    I just upped and offed to another city after getting a job there.

    I would say Physics is more useful than a degree based on Beckham, surfing or something similar.
     
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  15. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Hilarious. You should be on the stage.
     
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  16. Steven Toast

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    Of course you would, because you did it. In the same way that most people will say their child is the best because it's theirs.

    Incidentally, the David Beckham one is a myth, it was a lecture given on Beckham as part of a study of the rise of football culture. It's not an actual degree. And a degree in surfing is probably more useful to a professional surfer than a degree in physics is.
     
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  17. originallambrettaman

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    That Surf Science degree has apparently been really successful, Plymouth are the only Uni in Europe that offer the course, which teaches physics, biomechanics, ecology, estuarine studies, maths, IT, geography and oceanography. Some of the graduates now have senior roles at major surf and skate companies worldwide and it's a massive business.
     
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  18. Walter Sobchak

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    Thanks. Didn't think it was that funny myself.
     
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  19. Steven Toast

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    I thought it was useless?
     
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  20. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Thought your name was quite inventive. Some might not get it and can't google it as they don't know what the word is anyway.
     
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