The EU debate - Part III

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DMD said:
MPs back government's Brexit timetable

Within minutes of the vote, one dedicated Brexiteer had labelled it an historic moment. Iain Duncan Smith said for the first time the majority of parliamentarians had voted to leave the EU.

Technically MPs have only backed the government's plan to start the process of leaving by the end of March next year. Nonetheless it is a statement of Parliament's intent.

Some have accused pro-remain MPs of wanting to backtrack on Brexit, but tonight's result shows most parliamentarians are willing to respect the result of the referendum.

Instead the arguments are over exactly what Brexit will mean and the extent to which Parliament will have a say in shaping that.

This was not a binding vote, but for both sides it counts. With further parliamentary skirmishes inevitable, positioning and political power play are vital - especially when the stakes are so high.

Brexit Secretary David Davis responded: "The simple fact is that the mandate (in June's referendum) was to leave the European Union - full stop. We need to keep that in mind when we are going through that process."

He added: "This is a negotiation; it's not a policy statement. And, therefore, where you are aiming for may not be the exact place you end up."

The government's amendment was opposed by 23 Labour MPs and one Conservative - former chancellor Ken Clarke.

Five Liberal Democrat MPs, three Plaid Cymru MPs and 51 SNP MPs also voted against it.

The government's Brexit timetable means the UK will leave the EU in 2019, with negotiations lasting up to two years.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38243500
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They also voted in favour of the Labour motion for the Govt to spell out its Brexit plan.
 
Stan said:
Dull accidentally only cut and pasted the middle of the article. Here is the text at the start of it.

"MPs have voted to back the government's plan to start formal talks on Brexit by the end of March next year.

They also supported a Labour motion calling for Parliament to "properly scrutinise" the government in its proposals for leaving the EU.

The votes followed a compromise between Labour and the Conservatives, who had argued over the questions to be put.

The House of Commons' decisions are not binding on ministers.

MPs backed Labour's motion, saying the government should publish a plan and it was "Parliament's responsibility to properly scrutinise the government" over Brexit, by 448 votes to 75 - a margin of 373.

This followed another vote over the government's amendment to the motion, which added the proviso that its timetable for triggering Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, getting formal talks with the EU under way, should be respected.

MPs backed this by 461 votes to 89 - a margin of 372."
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Dull selective editing? Surely not?

<laugh>

You can take the Dull carer role tonight mate, I'm off down the pub, keep the poor old **** company until at least 10.30 mate <ok>
 
KATIE HOPKINS: You can ban the burka, Frau Merkel. But what are you going to do about banning the migrant boats YOU encouraged to come and which are destroying your country?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Merkel-going-migrant-boats.html#ixzz4SCkBPcKY

'Wir Schaffer das! We can do it!'
At least that was the message with which Angela 'Mother of all Migrants' Merkel tried to reassure the German people as she opened their country to all the world's refugees and told them to come.
By the time 1.1 million refugees had arrived in 2015, ordinary Germans had grown so tired of playing tolerant host to the intolerant masses incapable of understanding their cultures, respecting their women or western ways, that 66% no longer agreed with Merkel's mantra 'we can do it'.
In fact, most were shouting 'we don't want to do it'.
 
‘You throw him around like a toy, suffocate him, stick your finger down his f*****g throat!’: Cannabis-addicted father injured his seven-month-old son's testicles then smothered him to death
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-seven-month-old-son-death.html#ixzz4SCm3huko

Couple who left their five-week-old daughter with catastrophic brain injuries that will one day kill her and went to Nandos as medics battled to treat her are jailed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...baby-catastrophic-injuries.html#ixzz4SCmJAooE

Should people apply for a licence before being allowed to have children?
 
petersaxton said:
‘You throw him around like a toy, suffocate him, stick your finger down his f*****g throat!’: Cannabis-addicted father injured his seven-month-old son's testicles then smothered him to death
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-seven-month-old-son-death.html#ixzz4SCm3huko

Couple who left their five-week-old daughter with catastrophic brain injuries that will one day kill her and went to Nandos as medics battled to treat her are jailed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...baby-catastrophic-injuries.html#ixzz4SCmJAooE

Should people apply for a licence before being allowed to have children?
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What has this ****e got to do with coming out of the EU?
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
I don't think there was ever much doubt that MPs would not to try to overturn the referendum result.

However, there will be in depth scrutiny of the Brexit proposals. And, if, as I suspect the Gvt loses its appeal in the Supreme Court, a parliamentary vote on the final terms.
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It will be interesting how many MPs will vote it down so close to a GE when most areas voted out. Exciting few years ahead.
 
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petersaxton said:
‘You throw him around like a toy, suffocate him, stick your finger down his f*****g throat!’: Cannabis-addicted father injured his seven-month-old son's testicles then smothered him to death
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-seven-month-old-son-death.html#ixzz4SCm3huko

Couple who left their five-week-old daughter with catastrophic brain injuries that will one day kill her and went to Nandos as medics battled to treat her are jailed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...baby-catastrophic-injuries.html#ixzz4SCmJAooE

Should people apply for a licence before being allowed to have children?
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Fortunately you can't keep it up so this isn't an issue you've ever had to worry about.
 
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