The EU debate - Part III

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You should read his posts.... Like him or not he's the most intelligent poster i've came across on this
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I used to read them. He posts far right nonsense about white communities being diluted by darker people. That guy who killed Jo Cox came out with very similar ****. People like that are cowards who are driven by fear and hate. They shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. Nature took care of that in Pete's case.
 
I used to read them. He posts far right nonsense about white communities being diluted by darker people. That guy who killed Jo Cox came out with very similar ****. People like that are cowards who are driven by fear and hate. They shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. Nature took care of that in Pete's case.
Fear and hate is nonsense.Some people just prefer to be amongst their own,whether that's colour
creed or race.Dated i admit,but true.
 
No, mass immigration is a problem. Please stop pretending like it's just a symptom of an underlying issue, it's this sort of patronisation that further alienates and divides people - 'Oh, you just think that immigration is a problem, that's okay for you to think because you're not highly educated like me, but just know that you're wrong, okay little guy? And by the way, I know what's best for you! (Followed by distanced shouts of racist, xenophobe and bigot)' It's sickening.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy, this is all at the whim of globalisation, you'll sit there and pretend like there is a reasonable, best of both worlds solution, but there isn't, and then you'll continue to further degrade those issues through your left wing ideologies simply exacerbating the problem. It's not an outstretched hand of help, it's a power grab and you know it, that's how it works. Mass immigration keeps the left in power, to go against it would render them useless in the current climate.

You make a point I agree with, though I don't suspect you'll see it in the same way I do, but Labour and the Tories are two heads of the same beast, Corbyn has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works but the key difference between Labour and the Tories to me has always been that one is blue and the other is red. Both need to collapse and disappear so that new parties can be established that actually represents the key divide in this country.

Your second paragraph backs up what I said above. Mistakes were made in the past, but it was an inevitability of an ideology that is now fully endorsed by the left wing.


Immigration is obviously a problem for you. It's not a problem for me because I am not a racist. I live in Harringey, one of the most ethnically mixed boroughs in the country, and I have no problem with that.

Low wages, unscrupulous employers, and weak Unions have been a problem for me in the past though, but once again I do not blame immigration for any of that - I blame the employers and the weak Unions who should be actively recruiting in places like Amazon, DPD, DHL, Yodel etc.

Nor do I blame immigrants for the housing crisis that is forcing ordinary working people out of London and into crummy ****hole towns like the one you probably live in <ok>. I blame Thatcher for flogging off all the council houses, and Blair and co for not addressing that.

I am not a politician so I have no idea what you mean about a "power grab", or what is "keeping the left in power". And I don't claim to know what's best for you, but I'm pretty sure I know what's best for me; it's not Ukip, it's not the EDL, and it's not ****ing Brexit.
 
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Fear and hate is nonsense.Some people just prefer to be amongst their own,whether that's colour
creed or race.Dated i admit,but true.
It's a terrible attitude wetty. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise. People are people, regardless of colour, creed or race.
 
“One of the things we didn’t get right was immigration.”

“People can lose out if migration isn’t properly managed.”

“we were wrong in the past when we dismissed people’s concerns.”

“Low skilled migration has been too high and we need to bring it down – that means the maximum transitional controls for the new countries coming in from Eastern Europe.”


Labour “messed up” by allowing large numbers of people from Eastern Europe to come to Britain over the last decade.

http://labourlist.org/2013/11/there...s-on-immigration-because-no-one-is-listening/



politicians and journalists are “terrified” of discussing race, leaving multiculturalism to become a “racket” exploited by some to entrench segregation.

“The perverse and unintended consequences of our drive to instil respect for diversity is that our political and media classes have become terrified of discussing racial or religious differences.

“Our desperation to avoid offence is itself beginning to stand in the way of progress. And all too often the losers are minority Britons.


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/16/multiculturalism-race-trevor-phillips_n_6875826.html
 
Where have I ever said there's no downside? I've said that, overall, immigration benefits the country, which it clearly has and the age and skills of the indigenous population show the need for immigration to continue.

The immigrants I know from a variety of backgrounds, from different stages of my life are representative of immigrants as a whole- some great people, some ****s, most somewhere in between. Fortunately the few people I know who have hatred for another group of people based on nothing but blind prejudice aren't representative of many.

Well, it doesn't. And if you only look at it through an economic lens then your view is distorted. You've said in the past that it brings nice and happy things like doctors, and teachers and sport and blah blah blah, but when I asked you if it was worth the crime, the alienation of the people and the over crowding of schools you just replied 'Hey buddy nice Enoch Powell impression lol'. Skills can be taught, the age problem can be rectified through my Literally Hitler inspired state breeding programme - but that's unfathomable to you isn't it? I would revert to something less extreme but even the though of having a family these days is too much to stomach for the indoctrinated masses.

So there we go, you admit that you think the immigrants you know are a representation of all immigrants in the country, well I've got some news for you, they're not. Just because they exhibit a variety of personality traits doesn't change that, it is to your own detriment to think otherwise.
 
That your way of admitting he's right.
.... Most of the more intolerant people in this country are rich and older.

Not really, no.

And, that's no true either. Yes, there are those who wish to protect their 'privileged' position, as they see it. But, the vast majority of 'bigots without a cause' are from the sink estates, etc.

Those, as has been shown, who thought that if Cameron was for it they were against. Or, 'it's gotta be better than what we've got now' without really having the first ****ing clue of what they were voting for...
 
Well, it doesn't. And if you only look at it through an economic lens then your view is distorted. You've said in the past that it brings nice and happy things like doctors, and teachers and sport and blah blah blah, but when I asked you if it was worth the crime, the alienation of the people and the over crowding of schools you just replied 'Hey buddy nice Enoch Powell impression lol'. Skills can be taught, the age problem can be rectified through my Literally Hitler inspired state breeding programme - but that's unfathomable to you isn't it? I would revert to something less extreme but even the though of having a family these days is too much to stomach for the indoctrinated masses.

So there we go, you admit that you think the immigrants you know are a representation of all immigrants in the country, well I've got some news for you, they're not. Just because they exhibit a variety of personality traits doesn't change that, it is to your own detriment to think otherwise.

Your state breeding programme would still need over 20 years to show any benefit, forgetting what a ridiculous idea it is in the first place.

And yes it is worth those things (how true they are depends on how mental you are) which aren't the fault of immigration itself but of governments for not building the infrastructure needed to deal with it.

Simulataneouay we've got AB saying people want to stick with their own which I get but then people complain that there are parts of the country mostly inhabited by one group of people.
 
“One of the things we didn’t get right was immigration.”

“People can lose out if migration isn’t properly managed.”

“we were wrong in the past when we dismissed people’s concerns.”

“Low skilled migration has been too high and we need to bring it down – that means the maximum transitional controls for the new countries coming in from Eastern Europe.”


Labour “messed up” by allowing large numbers of people from Eastern Europe to come to Britain over the last decade.

http://labourlist.org/2013/11/there...s-on-immigration-because-no-one-is-listening/



politicians and journalists are “terrified” of discussing race, leaving multiculturalism to become a “racket” exploited by some to entrench segregation.

“The perverse and unintended consequences of our drive to instil respect for diversity is that our political and media classes have become terrified of discussing racial or religious differences.

“Our desperation to avoid offence is itself beginning to stand in the way of progress. And all too often the losers are minority Britons.


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/16/multiculturalism-race-trevor-phillips_n_6875826.html

Any opinion from you?
 
Any opinion from you?

Yep, I've seen nothing to change my opinion that you're an obsessed bore. <ok>

Care to post a comment on something in the content of what was posted?

No surprise stuttering pops up with his similar tedious obsession.
 
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Shows the double standards of the left

Of course it does, you ignorant ****wit..

Have you heard of trolls?..they don't mostly have a political affiliation, they just jump on opinionated people, like Hopkins, and do what trolls do.

If twatter wants to tolerate them, that's their problem. Personally, I would just ignore a 'look at me' ignoramus, like Hopkins.
 
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