The EU debate - Part III

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NowsufferinginSpain said:
What's happening re inflation is an inevitable consequence of the weak currency.
Quite simply, the U.K. Imports more than it exports, so price rises are inevitable as inflation rises.
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I'm sorry Spain, please don't take this the wrong way, but I do understand the impact of inflation and the "lag" effect. I was able to get through Fourier series and Laplace transforms at uni, so understanding inflation is relatively straight forward <laugh>
The point made earlier this morning is that I personally take a little comfort when results aren't as bad as forecasted. If this puts me at odds with some on here, so be it. As the Tesco add says "every little helps"
 
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PowerSpurs said:
is nearly as silly as your comment
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they wouldn't leave London and move to Hull because they wouldn't have anywhere to live
people in Africa would move to the UK and expect the UK government to find them somewhere to live and feed them
they'd say: "I dont have any money, I can't speak the language, you've got to save me"
 
petersaxton said:
they wouldn't leave London and move to Hull because they wouldn't have anywhere to live
people in Africa would move to the UK and expect the UK government to find them somewhere to live and feed them
they'd say: "I dont have any money, I can't speak the language, you've got to save me"
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African people don't think like that any more than London people would. Everywhere I've been in the world I've met people exactly like me and you. They don't need arbitrary rules imposed on where they can live. They need the freedom to fulfil their potential. In the west we've made a start on mot discrimnating against people based on their sex, religion, colour or sexual orientation. Let's finish the job and stop discriminating on birthplace too.
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
I didn't say it was no big deal, I said it was on a totally different level to hate groups threatening and inciting violence. Half a dozen of the more prominent exponents of of the hate shown in the picture, and many other events being arrested after the event had finished doesn't make it less wrong. It was only one example from many.
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No you did not say those things about the nazi salute.
You said it was a raised arm.
A nazi salute is clearly an incitement to racial hatred.
Maybe you haven't been on the receiving end of them. If you had you'd realise that they are accompanied with disgusting racist abuse. As a kid growing up in the 1970s I experienced them a lot. I also experienced them at spurs matches in the early 1980s.

The are also hundreds of examples of them on virtually all BNP, NF and EDL marches.

Hate crimes are all abborant so I do not understand your insistence on choosing which is worse.
I answered a poster who said that it was illegal to express white extremist views. I ended my answer by saying something like racial abuse and threats are illegal.You then decided to focus on some people getting away with it and used a photo of Muslim extremists so I responded with a picture of EDL extremists and said that I guess they both weren't charged cos their actions may not have legally been considered racist.
Nothing in this is controversial so God knows how you took so wrong.
There is nothing left to say on my part and I do not wish to bore everyone by keeping a non issue going.
 
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PowerSpurs said:
Why?
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For a start the relative wealth of nations and their economies would never flourish under a single currency.
We have seen from the Euro that differing economies doing well under a single currency is a pipedream.
You'd have situations where in Uganda, a bottle of water cost 50,000 worldies (my name for the world currency), and in England it would cost 2 million worldies, in line with earnings. You'd have floods of Brits trying to import everything from abroad, essentially killing off all UK manufacturing and resigning the UK to the ****ter, as there would be no jobs.
An attempt to have a single world currency and government would also trigger untold amount of wars as opposition to the batshit idea manifested.
There are people who would rather nuke the entire planet than do what you are saying.

Its complete pie in the sky.
The only way that would ever happen, is if we are invaded and conquered by an alien race.
 
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PowerSpurs said:
African people don't think like that any more than London people would. Everywhere I've been in the world I've met people exactly like me and you. They don't need arbitrary rules imposed on where they can live. They need the freedom to fulfil their potential. In the west we've made a start on mot discrimnating against people based on their sex, religion, colour or sexual orientation. Let's finish the job and stop discriminating on birthplace too.
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Top fertility rates:
Niger 7.6
Somalia 6.5
Mali 6.2
Chad 6.2
Angola 6.1
DR Congo 6.0

near the bottom:
Ireland 2.0
USA 1.9
UK 1.8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...#Country_ranking_by_verified_TFR_and_estimate

Many African countries have a different attitude to being responsible with their lives.
 
Bodinki said:
For a start the relative wealth of nations and their economies would never flourish under a single currency.
We have seen from the Euro that differing economies doing well under a single currency is a pipedream.
You'd have situations where in Uganda, a bottle of water cost 50,000 worldies (my name for the world currency), and in England it would cost 2 million worldies, in line with earnings. You'd have floods of Brits trying to import everything from abroad, essentially killing off all UK manufacturing and resigning the UK to the ****ter, as there would be no jobs.
An attempt to have a single world currency and government would also trigger untold amount of wars as opposition to the batshit idea manifested.
There are people who would rather nuke the entire planet than do what you are saying.

Its complete pie in the sky.
The only way that would ever happen, is if we are invaded and conquered by an alien race.
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You mean like PowerSpurs?
 
Bodinki said:
For a start the relative wealth of nations and their economies would never flourish under a single currency.
We have seen from the Euro that differing economies doing well under a single currency is a pipedream.
You'd have situations where in Uganda, a bottle of water cost 50,000 worldies (my name for the world currency), and in England it would cost 2 million worldies, in line with earnings. You'd have floods of Brits trying to import everything from abroad, essentially killing off all UK manufacturing and resigning the UK to the ****ter, as there would be no jobs.
An attempt to have a single world currency and government would also trigger untold amount of wars as opposition to the batshit idea manifested.
There are people who would rather nuke the entire planet than do what you are saying.

Its complete pie in the sky.
The only way that would ever happen, is if we are invaded and conquered by an alien race.
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I think we should do away with currency altogether. **** it, you want something, you can have it. And no borders, no countries. People work for personal fulfilment and ambitions that advance the human race and civilisation. I would call it.... errm Utopia. Person in charge James T. Kirk
 
remembercolinlee said:
No you did not say those things about the nazi salute.
You said it was a raised arm.
A nazi salute is clearly an incitement to racial hatred.
Maybe you haven't been on the receiving end of them. If you had you'd realise that they are accompanied with disgusting racist abuse. As a kid growing up in the 1970s I experienced them a lot. I also experienced them at spurs matches in the early 1980s.

The are also hundreds of examples of them on virtually all BNP, NF and EDL marches.

Hate crimes are all abborant so I do not understand your insistence on choosing which is worse.
I answered a poster who said that it was illegal to express white extremist views. I ended my answer by saying something like racial abuse and threats are illegal.You then decided to focus on some people getting away with it and used a photo of Muslim extremists so I responded with a picture of EDL extremists and said that I guess they both weren't charged cos their actions may not have legally been considered racist.
Nothing in this is controversial so God knows how you took so wrong.
There is nothing left to say on my part and I do not wish to bore everyone by keeping a non issue going.
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It's quite clear which is worse and which is more prevalent. You're underplaying the danger of one over the stupidity of another.
 
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