The EU debate - Part III

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Stanley said:
No digging required. He's even more transparent than Cuth!
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So you haven't made a point of looking him up? I don't know anything about him and I don't need to. I have to admit that he was pretty stupid to put his personal stuff out there though.
 
Smirnoffpriest said:
I never said that - you are beginning to act like a simpleton - sorry for the language but your responses are laughable. Out of our whole trade 44% of it goes to the EU - that means 44% of all our trade would become more expensive if a tariff is introduced. Out of Germany's entire trade something like 6-7% of it comes to the UK - meaning while that 6-7% would become more expensive, it would have a much bigger effect on us that it would on Germany.

Seems a pretty simple premise to most people.

You can also add the fact that Germany (as well as France) would be aiming to take our position as a global financial hub by having many of our banks HQs moving to their countries and into the EU from London - damaging us and improving their own GDPs.
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Why are you comparing ALL our exports to the 37 countries of the EU with only Germany's exports to the UK?
 
Smirnoffpriest said:
I never said that - you are beginning to act like a simpleton - sorry for the language but your responses are laughable. Out of our whole trade 44% of it goes to the EU - that means 44% of all our trade would become more expensive if a tariff is introduced. Out of Germany's entire trade something like 6-7% of it comes to the UK - meaning while that 6-7% would become more expensive, it would have a much bigger effect on us that it would on Germany.

Seems a pretty simple premise to most people.

You can also add the fact that Germany (as well as France) would be aiming to take our position as a global financial hub by having many of our banks HQs moving to their countries and into the EU from London - damaging us and improving their own GDPs.
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If the banks preferred Germany and France they would have moved by now.
 
Blueman said:
So you haven't made a point of looking him up? I don't know anything about him and I don't need to. I have to admit that he was pretty stupid to put his personal stuff out there though.
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By looking him up, if you mean have I googled "Peter Saxton" to find out what kind of a moron uses his own name to post bigoted **** on a football message board then guilty as charged! The Polish wife back story plastered all over his website makes him even more of a comedy figure.
 
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petersaxton said:
If the banks preferred Germany and France they would have moved by now.
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That's a really stupid and ill informed thing to say. They will go wherever suits them best at the time, in the same way that factories and call centres that used to be in the UK moved abroad when it suited them. If it's cheaper and more efficient for the banks to operate in Germany and France post Brexit then that's where they'll go. The only loyalty they have is to their profits. Dublin will benefit as well IMHO.
 
Stanley said:
By looking him up, if you mean have I googled "Peter Saxton" to find out what kind of a moron uses his own name to post bigoted **** on a football message board then guilty as charged! The Polish wife back story plastered all over his website makes him even more of a comedy figure.
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So you take it quite seriously then. I just don't get the urge to do it.
 
petersaxton said:
Why are you comparing ALL our exports to the 37 countries of the EU with only Germany's exports to the UK?
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For a political leader - and one who has made a decision that'll affect the UK for generations to come you might want to find out how many countries are in the EU.

You might also want to realise that for us to trade with Germany we have to agree a trade deal with the whole of the EU. If we don't agree a free trade deal with the EU and rely on the WTO as you seem to be suggesting, then it's going to affect us because it means it'll affect all our trade to each one of the 27 member states!

Again seems pretty obvious and simple. Though I suppose maybe not that sensible...
 
Smirnoffpriest said:
For a political leader - and one who has made a decision that'll affect the UK for generations to come you might want to find out how many countries are in the EU.

You might also want to realise that for us to trade with Germany we have to agree a trade deal with the whole of the EU. If we don't agree a free trade deal with the EU and rely on the WTO as you seem to be suggesting, then it's going to affect us because it means it'll affect all our trade to each one of the 27 member states!

Again seems pretty obvious and simple. Though I suppose maybe not that sensible...
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It was a simple typo
Nonsense
 
petersaxton said:
If the banks preferred Germany and France they would have moved by now.
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If we lose financial passporting many institutions will be forced to review their position, as otherwise they'll be unable to trade ffs!

They're already drawing up contingency plans should we not gain full single market access.

But I'm sure the Mail hasn't made this fact clear to you, so therefore you wallow in ignorance.
 
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Smirnoffpriest said:
Any evidence that Owen Smith is more popular and likely to win an election than Corbyn?
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Sadly not. There's a bit of a leadership vacuum at the moment. Corbyn's not the answer though.

Hilary Benn could win Labour an election. But unfortunately the zealots currently have the upper hand in the party and they'll ensure he never gets near the leadership - if he even wants it.
 
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