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The EU debate - Part III

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  1. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    I've said from the off, she's a trouser suit full of **** all.

    She's constantly seeking approval from both within the Tory party and spouting meaningless platitudes and sound bites at the populous. I think she's a piss weak leader who'll always go with what she perceives as the crowd pleasing policy. Her job is to do what's right for the UK, not placate the baying hordes.
     
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    Yes, because his royalists tried to stifle the ability for parliament to govern the country instead of the monarchy.
     
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    It comes back down to what's been discussed here at some length.

    We have to accept that the majority of the people who voted in the referendum voted to leave. That's undeniable. So, in that sense it is the will of the people.

    However, what informed and educated leavers did not vote for was to have their economic future sold down the river by a bunch of little England, xenophobic ****wits, like Fox and Davis.

    So, yes, they voted to leave. No, they didn't vote for the so called 'hard Brexit'
     
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    Simply leaving to ensure it's done quickly is analogous to 'burning our bridges'
     
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    Who's decisions are more important now?
    Monarch
    Government
    Parliament
    People
     
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  6. pieguts

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    You're right, so that makes it even more important that we don't shaft ourselves. IMO I think this has got all the hallmarks of one very large "cluster ****"
     
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    Yeah after trying to govern without Parliament Pete, you docile twat
     
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    Article 50 has to be triggered before negotiations start
     
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    It doesn't have to be. The longer it goes on the weaker our position in my opinion.
     
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    The government could trigger article 50 and the EU could refuse membership of the single market
     
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    This is a possibility, as it is not all about us.
     
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    I was listening to Radio 4 yesterday and an interview with a retired Barrister. He was scathing about May trying to overrule the Judiciary, who applied the law correctly in terms of Parliament having to vote on the terms of Brexit. But more so, in legal terminology of the referendum, it was clearly laid out in law that it was simply advisory. The Tories failed to disclose that and thus misled those who voted to leave about any binding agreements. The law is clear, it is up to Parliament to decide on the terms of leaving the EU and that is absolutely right. It's not down to an unelected PM and a Govt with no mandate to gamble our future away.
     
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    Unlikely to happen. The EU wants the UK as a trading partner.
     
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    They wouldn't if we accepted the Norway or Swiss model.
     
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    Parliament.
     
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    That is absolute nonsense.
    I don't think the EU will agree with you about that.
     
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    So you prefer 650 people to decide rather than 34 million?
     
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    The High court judges disagree with you Pete.
     
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    Parliament is the vehicle to represent the views of the people.
     
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    Yawn, you know what he meant you're merely being obtuse
     
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